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Joeski

April 03, 2015 2:05 PM

MotoGP » ‘Concessions’ continue in MotoGP 2016


"But most surprising is the amount of technical concessions still available to manufacturers without a race win." Not sure this surprised me...these concessions are what attracted new manufacturers and with KTM on the horizon it would have been necessary to have this in place to encourage participation...plus we have seen what happens under single rules... Top manufacturers with funding escape at the front and we will have a repeat of 2011 to 2015 or some may even say 2008 to present where Ducati started to fall back. In other words it may be the necessary evil that keep the scales balance and encourage true competition...on track.. Consider it an offset to combat the big money firms. Thoughts??

Joeski

April 03, 2015 1:51 PM

MotoGP » ‘Concessions’ continue in MotoGP 2016


“In 2016 a manufacturer achieving six concession points in dry or wet conditions will immediately lose the right to test with contracted riders and will lose all concessions from the following season." Not sure if I agree with this part...some years there are just many wet races. Wet podiums does not necessarily mean development breakthrough or progress...but I would agree that dry podiums are more of a true or valid sign of improvements in the machine allowing the rider the opportunity to challenge at the front...so I believe it should just be based on dry podiums.

Joeski

April 03, 2015 8:30 PM

MotoGP » ‘Concessions’ continue in MotoGP 2016


TrueFan: The only reason they need concessions is the relatively recent "engine freeze" rule....which significantly favours the leading manufacturers. I agree with the concessions on the number of engines available, and the engine freeze, but the two tier tyre rule (hard-medium versus medium-soft) is stupid. Likewise having two separate fuel allocations. One step forwards, two steps back...
100% with you on this bro....either bring back the soft tyre as a Q tyre for everyone or get rid of it altogether and everyone races on the same rubber. Let the new manufacturers and teams develop bikes to run standard compounds as used by the whole field.

Joeski

April 03, 2015 2:18 PM

MotoGP » ‘Concessions’ continue in MotoGP 2016


So there is still an open class??? The name just goes away with the intro of the common ECU for the whole field... Hate to say it but small teams..not just manufacturers, with small budgets need concessions to compete against any full factories... It seems the days of private teams are done..meaning only satellite and factory teams are left competitive. The top 13 in Qatar were only factory and satellite team...Aspar will be lucky to get into the points concessions or not...they need to bring a project like Kenny Robert's had in 2006.... Tech 3 will not give up Yamaha satellite status but they should develop a MotoGP frame with a factory Yamaha engine... These are the kinds of projects that I miss from motogp..but hey the racing is good now and we take it one step at a time.....

Joeski

April 03, 2015 6:14 AM

MotoGP » Dovi tempted by title thoughts, reality '5-6 races'


Losing the fuel concession was never an issue for GiGi...I believe he is neither here nor there on the softer tyre concession either...GiGi wants and needs to win now...so he is more than willing to concede the softer tyre if he wins the required 3 dry races...I do not think he is dying to get the hard tyre though because it seems that last year the other factory teams only used it in about 2 races....hence Rossi's comments...besides this new Ducati seems to handle the tyres well anyway...so for the other factories, Ducati having the softer option is problematic and GiGi wants to win which will mean he loses it.... Noticed that Dovi never used the softer option until the last day of testing just to fine tune it for the race... Ducati did not build this bike around that soft tyre...it is just a plus for now...the head start they will have for next year with unlimited testing this year is what concerns me.. I am happy for them but I want competition not a massacre next year...

Joeski

April 02, 2015 3:10 PM

MotoGP » Pedrosa to undergo surgery, out for two races


Good luck and I believe Dani will be back, I only hope the surgery fully solves his issues.... I know we knock Aoyoma but the dude was a full time racer a mere 5 months ago... so why would he not be competitive...and by competitive, I mean top 10... he has been testing the bike but not to set it up for himself etc probably durability, electronics or other mechanical solutions...not turning the bike in anger and risk crashing etc... so this would be a whole new thing for him on the Repsol for a race (yes he raced a repsol about 4 years go...not the same bike it is now) and he would need to get up to speed.. but on a good bike this guy can do good... we will see... of course it is a Repsol so if he does not get a top 4 or 5 everyone here will slate him even though he has not had much race prep time besides his testing duties!! Although the same "fans" were ok with Rea doing 7th on the Repsol..with a less competitive field...

Joeski

April 02, 2015 11:28 AM

MotoGP » Dovi tempted by title thoughts, reality '5-6 races'


Even though GiGi has 12 engines for the season...I would be a bit more worried if I was the other manufacturers. IMO, Gigi knows that the concessions would not last and he is expecting those wins to happen this year...I think he is ready to let go of the softer tyre....what is intriguing me..seeing how he already thinks...he had the bikes working on 22 liters all last year already even before the concession sacrifice was not until he achieved a certain amount of podiums. My big question is does he already have the engines capable of lasting in accordance with the factory rules already...I am sure he will excercise the option of 12 but he must be thinking about next year already where the rules will change from 12 engines to about 6 or 8, I believe.... This can be dangerous because if so IMO.. Ducati will cake walk the title next year....having unlimited testing this year to be ready for next.....Michelin might be the only issue...

Joeski

April 02, 2015 3:26 PM

MotoGP » Pedrosa to undergo surgery, out for two races


PS...I think J. Rea did a good job a few years back but he was on 1 of 4 bikes that could conceivably win...Aoyoma will be on 1 of 6 bikes that could conceivably win... also...the Satellite Honda of Cal is closer to the front and both Tech 3's are competitive...as it is the beginning of the season...we have all agreed and read on here that at the first few races the satellite Yamahas are almost on equal footing with the factory...point is that if Rea finished 7th in his Honda debut with little testing and track knowledge which was acceptable then a more competitive field (at the beginning of the year) and more bikes capable of being at the front, then a top 10 for Aoyoma should be acceptable and is comparable to what Rea did 4 years ago with little or no competition on track, considering Aoyoma never had the pre season like others and the bike is not set up for him (just like Rea).... Truthfully, I expect more from him but 10th is not a failure in this field! If he was full time then i

Joeski

April 02, 2015 11:18 AM

MotoGP » Dovi tempted by title thoughts, reality '5-6 races'


Codger: Out of the top 3 manufacturers the Ducati has the potential for more development than the other two. The ducati will only get better, and when the two riders get their bikes dialled in they will be in contention at all the tracks. Dovi is a classy rider and has a habit of beating his team mates and long may that continue. As usual, the stupid Quallifying rules influenced the race but, in this instance, I believe the two Ducs would still have been on the podium.
Yes the Ducati is new, but I do not believe it is the potential for development that will or can make them win but the opportunity...Honda and Yamaha are restricted from engine developments, testing and only allowed 5 engines for the year. Dovi is good rider and he has shown that given a top bike he can fight for the top..Iannone will be a threat in the near future...this is his first proper attempt and on a top bike...


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