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Joeski

March 20, 2014 11:15 AM

MotoGP » Final Factory/Open MotoGP line-up revealed


The only concessions Ducati should have gotten (for the sake of MotoGP and Racing as whole) is the 12 engines and unlimited testing. Why give them all the OPEN perks if they are factory....those 2 concessions are all any factory should need....if they cannot accomplish success with those then they probably should not be there in MotoGP!! This way OPEN teams would feel a little better about their concessions to make them competitive and not be pissed about a resourced factory stomping any chance they have by tossing more money at it and factory teams would still be encouraged to enter MotoGP while current factories would understand the concessions to aid a struggling factory...

Joeski

March 20, 2014 1:21 PM

MotoGP » Final Factory/Open MotoGP line-up revealed


I agree that there needs to be one rule accross the board but that is an ideal we all strive for!! in between time the rules have to flex to promote competition.... what sense would MotoGP be or how would it survive if all independent teams could not pay to go racing and struggling factories like Ducati say...eff it!! this is a waste as we cannot progress and we are just looking worst every year...let us focus on SBK...and Suzuki decide to delay the comeback as not feasible since they are already behind...so now we have 2 factorys racing and a grid size of 8 or 10...I was worried when it was only 16!! So I understand the reason behind the opposition to these new rules and I do not agree (wholly) with them but have to realize it is needed if we want MotoGP to survive....and bring greater levels of competition and racing..it will never be perfect!! Moto2 has control tyre and engine and there is sill disparity in the resources. So teams with bigger budgets always float to the top!!

Joeski

March 20, 2014 10:46 AM

MotoGP » Final Factory/Open MotoGP line-up revealed


I think that you all are thinking about this way too much! Most people (not die hard race fans) will just see the bikes race not all the rules race!! We on here are all passionate about this, others ... not so much... as MotoGP fans we focus and read every story so we are highly involved and opinionated about this. In the end...we all just want to see racing which we will see and IF Ducati improves because of these "OPEN" concessions it will make the racing "appear" better... at least on track especially with the independent OPEN teams moving closer to the top guys!! In the background the rules will play out and those of us on here will "wage the usual war" of words about what the rules should be etc etc etc but it will make the "RACING" closer an better!! Few years down the road they can adjust to ensure no one has an unfair advantage.

Joeski

March 20, 2014 10:57 AM

MotoGP » Final Factory/Open MotoGP line-up revealed


GlennGreen: I can already imagine me explaining these classes to my girlfriend or anyone with little MotoGP knowledge. "Factory Option with concessions" I'll just call it, the Ducati-class.
You only feel the need to explain because you are a true race fan who knows all the hot topics and debates about bike racing but you really do not need to explain anything to your girlfriend...she really does not care...she just sees the racing that is in front of her on the TV....all other explanations besides who is riding on the red/blue/orange bike is a waste for non-fans. You can debate the rules with us here on crash!! We get it ...well some of us do!

Joeski

March 18, 2014 8:03 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP announces control ECU from 2016


This is a better option than a dang "Factory 2 class" within a class. Some will argue that i tey wi with these concessions then they had an unfair advantage and the win is holllow!! Cannot say that I disagree but we really needed a way forward and a means of increasing competition but DORNA had to appease parties on both sides! OPEN class riders/teams were upset and manufacturers were upset.

Joeski

March 18, 2014 9:19 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP announces control ECU from 2016


Ducati dug themselves into this hole. Why should they be allowed special concessions to dig themselves out???? For the sake of MotoGP and the procession it has become with only 2 factory's capable of winning.... I wish the real world was that Ducati would just come out with this great machine and put it in the mix with the rest but that cannot/has not happened with the current rules...if you fall behind then you are toast with in season development freeze and limited testing.

Joeski

March 18, 2014 9:10 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP announces control ECU from 2016


I still believe the best way forward was just to freeze the standard Software (not the updated complicated Ducati version) with maybe 1 update release (predetermined parameters established with Marelli) mid-season or end of year and leave Ducati in the Open class. That way at least for the first 8 races Ducati would only be able to focus on mechanical performance and forced to work with the standard ECU for these concessions as with all open teams. Their 10 software guys would be of no use since they are not doing jack with the software..so 1 or 2 would suffice versus 10 If they won in OPEN format then the win wouldn't be as hollow because they had a handicap and they would know that it was the improvement of the bike not fancy electronics as with factory class then once they achieve certain wins/podiums they would just be required to move back to factory status.

Joeski

March 15, 2014 6:42 PM

MotoGP » Ducati Open or Factory? The wait continues…


Truefan I want more competition in GP as much as the next guy! BUT what is the sense of Duati turning over its software to all Open teams and only they will be able to use it at first. In essense, they would have never stopped using their FACTORY software BUT are given all the concessions of the OPEN class!! Come on now... I agree 1000% that Ducati made the right move to go to the OPEN class!! They gave up their factory status/software in keeping with the rules and are then given concessions to race in OPEN form! Now they "slid" DORNA/Marelli their software (PS Marelli already had their software as they developed it for Ducati)...Marelli puts it out as an update...NOW Ducati is allowed to keep the very software they sacrificed for OPEN class concessions.... sorry bro!!...they skirted the rules through a loophole (legal maybe,,,,but underhanded!!!)

Joeski

March 15, 2014 2:32 PM

MotoGP » Ducati Open or Factory? The wait continues…


With the poor performance of the Honda production racer (Honda's misinterpretation of the rules) and the success of Yamaha (so far) and possibly Ducati in the open category...this factory 2 rule BS was some appeasal process for Honda! to keep them in the game and supplying the most machines on the grid...too big to fail!" lol Talk all the smack we want about Honda and their monopoly of control...if they left, MotoGP would be worst for it!! Yamaha barely secured title sponsorship (albeit a last minute BIG hail Mary). Ducati is trying to find their way with a "pig" bike and left over CRT's are not cutting it!! Could you all imagine not 1 Honda on the Grid? Truth is DORNA is trying to keep all its customers happy and like any other business they pay a litle more attention to their top customers!! problem is, the fans and the sport suffer when any 1 manufacturer has this much power.


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