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RSMick

December 29, 2012 6:45 PM
Last Edited 144 days ago

MOTOGP » Pesek 'working on' Ioda funds


So Don (or logged out Shamoron) that is why the mechanics get paid, not all highly and some have sidelines as well. Take the fact that most riders are a business and not an employee of the team so you could apply the same logic to them (get out). As for if you can't make it in business, well your obviously not business minded, its good business if you can get someone to pay more money to the team, its not bad is it? I don't know what country your from if your talking proper football or that american game, but the bigger football clubs force their players to hand over a large amount of the personel endorsements, on the basis that they get a lot of the endorsements only by being signed to the bigger clubs. Something that Rossi is having to suffer this year. He is being asked to hand over 200k less than a tenth of the budget needed to buy and run a couple bikes for the season and half the amount of leasing a WSS from PTR.

RSMick

December 29, 2012 11:04 AM
Last Edited 144 days ago

MOTOGP » Pesek 'working on' Ioda funds


Shamorone, how many mechanics could sell advertising space on their outfits? How many could sell advertising space on the bikes they don't ride? How many could do public appearances endorsing products? Of course this kind of providing your own backing to ride does not go off in WSB does it? Just remind me how many bikes there are on the grid in the series that is better because of it has more manufacturers and bigger grids? It happens in all racing and has done in F1 for a long time, it happens the first time you throw your leg over a bike to enter the track. As for bigshot team owners earning lots of money, think again a lot of the private teams its a passion not a money earner, remember Luis Dantin? ejected from the paddock after spending all Mr Campinotti's money on toys instead of the team. An American lecturing on financial issue's at the moment is novel though!

RSMick

December 28, 2012 9:15 AM

MOTOGP » Pesek 'working on' Ioda funds


Jimmy What is CRT then? you can buy a chassis from a chassis manufacturer and an engine an tune it. Or buy an ART, no difference to what you could buy then the factories still won. People will say but you have no chance of winning, I think the last privateer win in the top class was 1980 Jack Middleburg. The last true privateer podium was Makenzie on the ROC (half the field depleted thanks to Doohan) Barros got one on the NSRV but did have factory backing. In the first year of CRT they are closer than the first year of ROC/Harris and NSRV, where being lapped just once was considrered an achievement. The difference is now you have a more proffesional structure, Abraham is an owner/rider but still has a contracted team structure, which you had in 92 but some far worse underfunded teams than now. One always springs to mind was Peter Graves who to his credit somehow managed to get his bike on the grid and gave Simon Crafer his big break after his entry being refused.

RSMick

December 27, 2012 4:38 PM
Last Edited 146 days ago

MOTOGP » Pesek 'working on' Ioda funds


Have people forgotten in the old days most people had to buy their to get bikes into this class and all others? Having to pay to ride is normal it does not mean the rider pays personally, although he can, it means he will need personal sponsors to pay for it, so the rider becomes like the old days a salesman as well. One thing for sure, it will be easier for Lucas to get sponsorship being signed to a motogp ride than having nothing or in another class. As I said in the other thread paying half as much as he would to be in WSS, where a bike should cost about 20k not 400.

RSMick

December 27, 2012 6:17 PM
Last Edited 146 days ago

MOTOGP » Pesek 'working on' Ioda funds


rsv4ryan, it is like any business who employ a person for his customer base, it goes on in all walks of life, its called building, a team has to build and these grid slots are precious. Could be in WSB though where you have to pay for tyres and travel as well as entry, and when the promoter is doing low sanction fee packages and cheap TV deals, the start money's not too good either. Barry Sheene and Kenny Roberts were the first to get the deals better with the FIM, when they used to pay 1500 to enter and only get 200 back.

RSMick

December 21, 2012 8:09 PM
Last Edited 152 days ago

MOTOGP » Penalty Points among latest MotoGP rule changes


I think that is everyones concern Busa Boy and by the same token no one wants to see a title decided by a stupid move as it was when the Motogp safety advisor won the 250 title. Whilst Maquez has unquestionable and unbelievable talent, his regard for other competitors safety has to be questioned, such a shame that we will never see him and Marco lock horns.


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