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RSMick

February 18, 2014 1:39 PM

MotoGP » Honda would 'stop' if software is controlled


TalentFan: I know Mick and others won't agree but I believe the racing would be so much closer and better and much more entertaining.
No I don't agree, I have always enjoyed GP for what it is, whether 500's, 800, 4t or 1000. It is seeing the best riders do what I could not with some amazing machinery, the atmosphere at the track. It is not just about the race, if it was practice days would be pointless they may as well just turn up like club racing 20 mins in the morning then race. Its evovled and Dorna have took it from the brink of extinction in 91, made mistakes by letting the manufacturers decide the rules, then reigned them in calling Honda's bluff. It is what it is, some people want it to be something it isn't or was never created for. The new rules are as simplier then they ever were.

RSMick

February 17, 2014 9:15 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MotoGP » Honda would 'stop' if software is controlled


It wont make him faster no thats in the heart in my opinion, it may slow him down if he gets it wrong in the estimate of what is needed or strays outside that optimal path. A riders confidence to go fast I would have thought comes from the tyres and the ability comes from his talent. Software wont guide the bike through the optimal line at the optimal speed and optimal angle but may help him keep it there. You are just trying to find a way to interpet it as 'Lorenzo is only fast because the software makes him'

RSMick

February 17, 2014 8:22 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MotoGP » Honda would 'stop' if software is controlled


All of this is fine if things are happening as expected, the problems start when they are not and the thing full scanning trying to get to the targets to match for the answers it needs, if those targets are there. A reason maybe why Lorenzo is able to get so much out of the Yamaha, his data is said to be like an Eastenders script, the same every time, I remember first year at Silverstone watching him at Copse compared to every other rider he was hitting the same apex over and over all weekend. All in all these are aids the bike cannot drive itself, if the parameters are set wrong it is more likely a hindrence rather than aid. A fast rider will always be a fast rider, and a more accurate rider would usually be the fastest, forget Marquez he's a freak. One problem suffered by SBK riders they have more margin for error, make a mistake in GP and you will have to work twice as hard to get back.

RSMick

February 17, 2014 10:14 PM

MotoGP » Honda would 'stop' if software is controlled


Not at all because the fast riders are also good at relaying the data, ignoring problems and still pinning it, Doohan used to say that Rainey could ride any bike in any state faster than most. I like watching Hernandez trackside, the guy is fast and fearless, his problem appears to be setting the bike up, watching him wrestle the Avintia in the first year with Motec ignition was brilliant, it looked and sounded like it was doing the wrong thing at the wrong time all the time. He was getting the Aprilia into shapes last year no one should. youtube.com/watch?v=jGPfBpnz0aw Maybe a good example of when software assistance is gone and rider skill and bravery is key.

RSMick

February 17, 2014 7:55 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MotoGP » Honda would 'stop' if software is controlled


The ECU will have the data programmed in by the engineer, not the previous laps, an engineers view of the data recorded. then again who knows what would have been under Honda's. This is my very basic understanding of it. It would basically say 'If throttle pos = **, and fork pos =**, and swingarm = **, and brake press=**, and gear =**, and wheel speed =**, then let power =**' So it starts the process of if power =**, then let butterfly position = ** cylinder 2 = off, cylinder 1= fuel **%, spark= 1in2 and so on and so on. Then add the if nots, ifs and ors for every permutation, also keep monitoring wheel speed between front and back to make sure it is coming down, the wheel speed is a process on its own counting the pulses as is the revs. It will do this all the time until its told to jump to the next section, where the comparrisons will start again but with different targets.

RSMick

February 17, 2014 8:09 PM

MotoGP » Honda would 'stop' if software is controlled


Each time it has worked out where it is and what is occuring it will probably jump to the parameters required and only process these, however it has to find them. I do not know how many processors these have, but each one (if multiple) will have to do scans of logic and send it to another processor, if one it will have to scan the lot. This all takes time and depending on the speed of the processor and how much code, like reading a book the more words the longer it takes to read and write, although interupts and jumps are likely to be in place, like skipping the chapter you don't need. The likely scan (loop) time maybe as small as 10ms so it will be a hundred times a second, it may be less if the scan time is more. Then the mechanically aspects of it need to react and in a safe manner, cutting power at the wrong time could be disastrous, again these are not instant but bloody quick. Remember I am trying to put it simple and in line with what I do (not automotive), and these guys are

RSMick

February 17, 2014 5:58 PM

MotoGP » BT Sport reveals MotoGP TV line-up


The Dorna pass gives you insights into almost all the subjects covered, and lots lots more. It is however straight down the line with no humour or interactions and without Melanie Sykes to jazz over. Dorna have put up the 'sign up for WSB' as well not bad at 60 quid, got to be better than the woeful Eurosport coverage which is fine if you just want to watch the race.


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