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RSMick

October 02, 2014 11:32 AM
Last Edited 81 days ago

MotoGP » Iodaracing planning to stay in MotoGP


I know WCM very well, its an old argument, Dorna didn't really throw them out FGS objected coming up with some so called non existent contract which Zerbi (Fim) tried to enforce, there were no agreement between Dorna and FGS, WSB were going to 19k kits until GP announced 4t. Dorna did not buy out Flamini's, FGS gave Infront 93% of their company as they were losing money, Bridgepoint purchased Infront sports and media which were highly profitable, Infront Motor Sports a tiny spec, were not. Bridgepoint forced the Flamini's out and gave control Dorna. The rules to include CRT's were before Bridgepoint bought Infront Sports in September 2011 and the first CRT's were before Dorna took control of WSB October 2012. The GSX-RR is indeed a beauty

RSMick

October 02, 2014 8:33 AM
Last Edited 81 days ago

MotoGP » Iodaracing planning to stay in MotoGP


Thus far the CRT has worked, making Honda, Yamaha and Ducati sit up and look at providing more bikes, the Honda customer bike has been a disaster PR wise as was their first Moto3 bike, but it has easily beat the ART what Honda said. Ioda were expecting better treatment from ART this year but it never materialised and I feel for Sacchi that Aprilia went to Gresini, PBM were negotiating for better equipment for this year from Aprilia but it didn't happen and PBM by the fact they put bigger effort into BSB than they do GP look like they were just hanging on to their slots to be able to sell them at the same time raking the money in from the series. As in F1 it is all about the grid slots, something Dorna has done since 2001 worked on protecting teams with no factory involvement. 5 were given contracts in 2001, Pons, Gresini, Tech3, KR and Dantin. Look at how WSB has been run for years, pay for tyres only, no travel fund (it used to be the top 14) and poor start money.

RSMick

October 02, 2014 8:13 AM
Last Edited 81 days ago

MotoGP » Iodaracing planning to stay in MotoGP


Somebody mentioned on here that the CRT were being screwed over! All were given a 5 year contract to protect their grid places from Dorna, this is why Aprilia went to Gresini, they will receive bikes for free and Aprilia have saved themselves €3.8m. The CRT bikes were created for 1 reason, to show the manufacturers particular Honda, that the championship could carry on without them, the supply of Motogp bikes was getting smaller each year and they were dictating the series. Remember Nakamoto saying "if we go to spec ECU Honda will leave" or "if we go to spec software Honda will leave"? The CRT gave teams with no chance of getting into Motogp a chance, not only did they receive start money, tyres and travel but also a subsidy from Dorna that factory or satellite bikes did not. PBM will sell their slots as this was being brokered by Dorna for Aprilia to buy, that has changed whether that is now LCR, VDS or Suzuki? if they finish bottom 2 they become less in value.

RSMick

October 02, 2014 7:54 AM
Last Edited 81 days ago

MotoGP » Iodaracing planning to stay in MotoGP


SasquatchBob: How can Ioda stay in MotoGP? I thought all 24 grid places were taken. Anyone shed some light?
Contracts work both ways and Ioda have 2 grid slots for 3 more years. It was announced that they would increase to 26 when Suzuki announced they were returning, however, tyres would only be provided free for 24, any new teams who do not buy a grid slot from someone else will have to pay their own travel and tyres. Add to this out of the 24 contracted places the last 2 from this season will not get the travel fund for 15, which currently stands at 1 Ioda (if that counts) and 1 Avintia. Suzuki were told 18 months ago that if they did return they would either have use or buy an existing team slots, or pay for their own travel and tyres which estimates run at €1.9m per bike. Why should Dorna help them?


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