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RSMick

December 19, 2014 9:19 AM
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Ninetimes: Maybe you can name a manufacturer, the year, and the specific area in which they bullied Dorna. Name one manufacturer who did actually force Dorna to change motorbike series.
Try Suzuki in 2011 getting the engine allocation up to 9 for manufacturers who hadn't won a dry race for 3 years or something, then pulled out, just one example. All the open teams in February 2014, creating the factory open rule, another, these are just recent times. Don't even mention Ducati and WSB! Can you give a non speculative example of when Honda did?

RSMick

December 18, 2014 7:56 PM

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ProfessorX:
NineTimes: I said before, i'll say it again. MotoGP must get rid of the disease called Honda.
it's how corporations do it in the real world, why not in racing too? Good thing we get to see MM win another world championship before the appearances decide to shift a tad. Same monomake control tire, same FIM, same Dorna, same commentary. As for Honda's power, it's not all Honda's, Repsol are a pretty important sponsor, they even convinced Honda to get rid of Michelin, a move that ONLY paid off in the second half of 2012 till now. Guess the commentators have till the end of 2015 to canonize MM. btw, why can't we ban oil companies (for obvious reasons) as sponsors, alcohol and tobacco are on the naughty lists.
So many inaccurate statements, again!

RSMick

December 18, 2014 7:33 PM
Last Edited 252 days ago

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Ninekisses Continued: Does Ducati, Yamaha...etc have the samepower as Honda? A. Around the same Does Honda support other teams becoming (to be) competitive? (Please provide evidence)? A. Stephan Bradl was a factory supported rider, as is Pol Espargaro, Honda satellite bikes had 1 podium, Yamaha's had 1, Ducati's had none. Bradl underperformed by Honda's standards so is on his way, despite LCR wanting to keep him.

Nine times: I hope you don't give me a number of sensible answers, not load of rubbish you always give.
A. Maybe its the questions that are rubbish! You don't want me to give sensible or rubbish answers, what type do you want then? Congratulations if you are multilingual, I so hope you are.

RSMick

December 18, 2014 7:11 PM
Last Edited 252 days ago

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NineTimes: Some people here have incredibly stupid(apologies in advance) explanations to why Honda controlling the sport. RSmick, To me, you don't sound like an educated man. Is yes, then maybe you can explain why Honda went against the world when Ducati went Open??
Thats very good, considering you have probably never heard me speak! A mildly educated person would have written 'you don't appear to be an educated man'.
NineTimes:There (These) are my questions to be answered by you (I would like you to answer):
Was open rules not open for Honda? A. Yes and they produced a bike to do so TBC

RSMick

December 19, 2014 1:57 PM
Last Edited 252 days ago

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No Suzuki Motor Group own the lions share of Suzuki, VW own 19.9% but they have been in bitter rows since the purchase in 2009 not sure if that has ended. Toyota own 33.3% of Yamaha. Ducati are playing 1 year catchup, they have been there since 2003. BMW should have entered earlier then, they commissioned Oral to build an 800 and 990 which McWilliams used to test and became the FB for a few weeks (I suppose you will blame Honda for the FIM banning hydraulic gear change). Kawasaki tried since late 2002 but weren't good enough, nothing to do with money, but they never have been Its not Honda and Yamaha's fault others missed the boat, or not good enough to compete, Ducati with its small resource but Phllip Morris money managed fine until they lost Stoner. The other bit yes bang to rights you got me, or is it scotoma again? Are you going to give us all a good cringe again?

RSMick

December 19, 2014 11:02 AM
Last Edited 253 days ago

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Talentfan, Talentfan, as you have been reminded many times its a competition between manufacturer and rider, is it Honda's fault that they rose from creating a failure in 77 to dominate in the mid 90's? They did it its up to others to follow their example. If KHL and BMW valued their motorcycle division like Honda do theirs, they could surpass Honda's resources financially. Its up to the others to catch up, Suzuki have had enough help and Aprilia certainly have. My CV is looking better everyday, first Honda, then the army now Dorna.

RSMick

December 19, 2014 11:32 AM
Last Edited 253 days ago

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TF2: Currently Honda (& to a slightly lesser extent Yamaha) are winning far more because they've got the rules playing far more to their strengths (Wealth & Resources) than they are due to anything else. Neither Co dominates in any other sphere of Racing - that says more than I can about the truth in MotoGP. As for what you do... well you DID post that you were involved, & your post content & agenda support that too. Are yo
So why don't KHI and BMW invest and crush Honda and Yamaha? Are telling me VAG don't have more resources than Honda or Yamaha? Dig away my friend, its all there. Whilst your at it dig out the posts which indicate that I am directly involved, do you really think I would post here if I was?

RSMick

December 18, 2014 7:30 PM
Last Edited 253 days ago

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Ninekisses Continued: Why (didn't) Honda didn't go Open? A. There were 5 bikes on the grid if you had watched you would have noticed. Why didn't Ducati go factory? What would Honda lose if we had the earlier version of Open Rules in place? A. What earlier version? Why did Yamaha choose to run open bikes and Honda didn't? A. They didn't, they supplied open engines to Forward to run in an FTR rolling chassis, COW purchased FTR, Steve Bones left and then Mark Taylor, Espargaro wanted to continue with the Yamaha chassis. Honda did exactly what they were asked to do, provide a bike for purchase not lease, Yamaha went agaimst Dorna's request. What was Honda afraid of?? A. Didn't know they were, they won the championship How (did) Honda successfully managed (manage) to change the rules over night? and what does that say? A. Which rules? The only rules that changed, were requested by the open teams complaining about Ducati becoming open and providing software they could not afford to run


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