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RSMick

January 07, 2013 9:09 PM

WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


Sick, Motogp generates over 200milion euro from TV rights and F1 1 billion unfortuneatley I cannot find out what WSB does but as it has very few deals and Eurosport exclusive it probably isn't a lot. One round pays the travel fund for the whole year for Motogp and its not hard to guess what that is, and Motogp teams get travel expenses WSB does not. Both of them need to streamline which Dorna have been trying the other party has limited to one bike in the pit, 4 in the truck though. And anyone who believes that the FIM have a big input regarding rules is being a bit naive, Dorna employed a technical coordinator to do that. At the end of the day the announcements come via the FIM but remember its contracted out. Anybody remember the ACU?

RSMick

January 07, 2013 5:47 PM

WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


I know buddy I was asking the question of the guy who said I remind you the revival started after Dorna walked out the door, they were just promoting it. As I remember the entire paddock was convinced that there was a huge pool of money, but it was only Dorna UK which is an agent and I can't remember his name. Be interesting to see if anyone remembers who ran it before then and the lease on some of the British circuits.

RSMick

January 07, 2013 4:23 PM
Last Edited 135 days ago

WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


Cubikrube, Dorna/Bridgepoint didn't buy WSB, it just happened to be a tiny part of Infront who is fronted by Phillipe Blatter nephew of Sepp, with the contracts it has because of that tie up made it worthwhile for a capital investment company. Many compnies buy other companies to do just that, asset strip and take away the opposition. The truth is neither WSB or Motogp have been in profit for a while, thats how Infront ended up with WSB. However the only interest thing Bridgepoint is interested in either Dorna or Infront is it returning a profit for its investors and its networth so its resale value will also be in profit. Bridgepoint have already ofloaded 39% of Dorna to a Canadian pension company.

RSMick

January 07, 2013 3:42 PM

WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


TalentFan, again just proof that people have not watched racing or understand GP for long. CRT's are closer than any other of the private bikes before. When the ROC/Harris yams came out, first race Honda wheeled out a big bang engine that put them even further behind, lapping as always been part of the GP and WSB, of course when Fogarty did it though it was exciting. Congratulations for decphering Shamorones ramblings, his predictions are more incoherent than Nostradamus. The constant bleating of slow and dangerous CRT's yet ignoring WSS, most of the field 3 seconds behind and a lot more than 5, but thats not dangerous only CRT is.

RSMick

January 07, 2013 2:51 PM

WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


TalentFan, the problem being that the people who bleat on about the changes are ridiculous or Dorna have no idea probably have never attended a race. PP916, yes the Hospitaity suites are absolutley necessary, these are used by the sponsors to entertain their clients as well as the sponsors being treated. There are only about 6 or 7 in the WSB paddock and probably why it is struggling, they are there to entice the money men who if their clients are happy they spend the money. The paddock in WSB looks like a minimoto meeting compared to GP. The team in WSB who seem to have their hospitality spot on is Cresent Suzuki, I wonder why that is? they treat their sponsors clients, very well. Yes the people they are entertaining dn't know anything about bike racing but it brings the money in.

RSMick

January 07, 2013 11:49 AM
Last Edited 135 days ago

WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


PP916, they had it in the junior class in 2011 and it was billed as wildy exciting! Racing is racing, there is lots of skill involved in the lower power racing, make 1 mistake and your in trouble, as in Motogp. SBK and STK has always been more forgiving. If you like the glamour then fair enough, personally I prefer Motogp for that because WSB has very little. I would sooner see any type of racing than at Darley Moor, I don't know what it is like now but when I last rode it over 20 years ago it seemed about 10 foot wide and concrete slabs. Buddy I am not sure that their idea's are great, they are only rumours anyway. But I have watched many sites slating GP/Dorna for many things whilst watching WSB go the same way, Every other series has seen the need for change but not WSB and look at the result. I look at the business side as well and watched WSB/FGS since its rise from trouble and partnering with Octagon before being dumped as did ISM, only they didn't get it back.

RSMick

January 07, 2013 10:52 AM
Last Edited 135 days ago

WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


Boo, where else will they go? As BSB and all other nationals are dumbing down to meet costs, they still want a world title. Most of them when they get offered a CRT or Satellite ride say they want to ride to win. Maybe Flamini will set another series up, to go with his Superstars whee he has changed the motto recently from The worlds most technically advanced series, to the heart of motorsport. They use there old SBKNo1 only STSnumber1. PPS916: Why will 250's be dull? Moto3 isn't, if your referring to speed then spend a little time watching the Asia underbone series. Speed isn't everything, just means the one who has perfect setup wins. Do you pay to go and watch the support races or WSB? As WSB prices are lower than ever because crowds are lower than ever it needs something new.

RSMick

January 07, 2013 10:31 AM
Last Edited 135 days ago

WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


Boo, I was at the very first round at Donnington in the paddock where some of the bikes being raced were actually road bikes the day before, particular the RC30's. We had travelled from Brands as the meeting was mixed with the transatlantic trophy. The riders you had then were the same as now, riders on the way up and riders on the way down. Plus Ron Haslam raced as well. In those days there was no SBK as such in the national championship it was Superstock (which made up a chunk of the SBK entries) and F1 and there was an F1 world championship which was less spec than the WSB of today. Nobody moaned when WSB killed off F1 as F1 seemed too expensive for little gains, then again there wasn't any internet forums.


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