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RSMick

January 09, 2013 6:12 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MOTOGP » Four teams to run control ECU in MotoGP 2013


WSB pushed it the way it was becoming, starting when Octogen/FGS ran the championship. WSB is in the same boat, the only teams you have there now are official or satellite, Ten Kate slightly different and it shows but they too this year will have Cosworth ECU with HRC software, probably from the GP bike. WSB was never supposed to be like it is but now has more electronic aids than GP, and all you seem to need to do is produce 150 photocopies of your bike. It has just become somewhere to put your failed GP bike. (kwack,Aprillia,BMW) Take a look at the difference between a WSB bike with standard electronics, Grillini and the other BMW's. So if you don't want them in Motogp you certainly don't want them in WSB. Here is another corker the Indian round is in doubt, Flamini didn't take into account customs laws when he signed the agreement, logistically it is almost impossible and Dorna are working like mad to make it happen. Also it looks financial bonds are requred for each bike for the ac

RSMick

January 09, 2013 6:38 PM

MOTOGP » New PBM MotoGP prototype taking shape


I dont see what the Konig has to do with it, their has been others since, did you ever see it? More Kims ability than the bike. As I remember all ART's at Jerez testing were using steel brakes becuase it was so cold. As for Depuniet wandering down pit lane with a memory stick, his technician might have. Not unusual as all ART's were sharing data to aid developement, PBM were one of if not the last to get theirs. Maybe what I should have added earlier is that no-one should bother trying to develope a bike, as well.

RSMick

January 09, 2013 6:05 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MOTOGP » Four teams to run control ECU in MotoGP 2013


The software rule in the spec ECU was introduced to pacify the manufacturers, they asked for 5 engines to justify going racing, Dorna wanted spec ECU to so the teams could get a good deal. The factories also want to continue to develope their own software, hardware is not important but the I/O of that is, and this will limit how much sofware can be written, if you don't have an encoder to tell you how far over the bike is leaning, you cannot guess it, and it goes deeper than that. Take the factories out of racing, another technological house will replace them and the one who does it best will win. THATS WHAT GP is about, F1 is the same the only thing that has changed there spec ECU but then add on things like DRS and Kers, and maufacturer the racing with tyre degredation. Still you get half cars finishing 3 laps down and that is OK? BSB are able to do this because this is what SBK's is supposed to be about, getting the best out of what you get over the counter.

RSMick

January 09, 2013 5:15 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MOTOGP » Four teams to run control ECU in MotoGP 2013


Lets breathe, the factories R&D departments pay the big chunk for the racing . Here they search for new avenues, new ideas and develope existing. This also provides a training bed for new engineers. Yes they can do it somewhere else, take their budget and stop racing, no fatory Motogp or WSB. What better way to develope than try to get an engine to rev at 15000rpm for 80 miles and only burn 20 litres of fuel, at the same time get you bike round the track faster than anyone else. It involves everyone from composites down to Bridgestone, why do you think Bridgestone provide for free? The software guys are leaning off the power and fuel when it is not necessary, something the rider cannot do, without this they would not make the end of the fuel wise and probably physically. (Christ the edit window is bad on this)

RSMick

January 09, 2013 4:33 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MOTOGP » Four teams to run control ECU in MotoGP 2013


It was Haydens and if he had GPS it would not have happened. SPec ECU means someone will decide what I/O will be allowed so first thing out for Honda is Asimo's gyroscope. With limited I/O there will be limited parameters, I am sure the factory will try and multiplex but that may be policed. The battle will basically become a battle between each factory and Magnetti, but more will be feeding back to Magnetti. There will be many benefits from the challenges the software guys face, its not just about where the bike is as what its doing in any situation. The big challenge is fuel as the world wants economy. Anybody who complains about electronics should get used to it they are here to stay, if you don't like it throw your PC/tablet,TV,cooker,washing machine etc out the window, sell your car and bike.

RSMick

January 09, 2013 4:00 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MOTOGP » Four teams to run control ECU in MotoGP 2013


Jon M - Your in the wrong class, GPS and active suspension are banned from GP but active in WSB. 100k gets you a system, software and technicians included, consider how much the techs will be. Add to this all the previous data from tracks collected by Yamaha and Ducati for the last few years, those algorithms that work out where the bike is take a lot of writing. Just look at Bosch last year. Only MSMA members can use their own software (the expensive bit) can not must, for a maximum of 4 bikes, and the trade off is fuel. Suzuki is not an MSMA member, they will get 9 engines and decide themselves what status they come in as. Register as CRT and risk getting your engines nicked or a manufacturer. Like F1 complicated rules for complicated bikes with trade offs.

RSMick

January 09, 2013 2:05 PM
Last Edited 161 days ago

MOTOGP » New PBM MotoGP prototype taking shape


MD Zane, I don't remember Rossi and Burgess manufacturing or designing a chassis. For the ignorant the manufaturer of this chassis, which there are 2 versions, got the very last 2st pole position. As with the above post, whatever kind of person Paul Bird is, we should be happy he is putting his money and persueded others to put their money into this sport. I remember 12 months ago a lot of posts as to wtf he had signed Ellison. I think what Crash needs is all riders to smile and do little baby waves at the camera, and wait for all the other riders in a . All team bosses to put loads of money in, and when its not working just smile and think well he's a nice guy, last, but nice. All manufacturers to stop trying to build a bike to beat others. A series promoter to not move with the times, lose money at every track because their nice tracks and keep everything as it was years ago even though years ago they were facing the same problems and they weren't good years.


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