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107SS2009

February 08, 2016 12:49 PM

F1 » Newey predicts ‘spending frenzy’ with token demise


As I wrote on here before, for its first year (2014) the new PU development was frozen as homologated for the whole season which as have been seen gave a season’s advantage to who hits it right (Mercedes). For its second year development tokens kicked in, including in-season development. For this year the second set of in-season development tokens repeats, plus them being increased from 25 to 32. The development tokens did not control the spending, but the limit on number of engines that can be used in a season and the penalties certainly controlled what can be changed and used, it will be the same for this year. For 2017 development tokens has been dropped, the situation will remain the same as the number of engines that can be used and the penalties will do the same job (control) the number of upgrades to be introduced during the season. As regards software/mapping, unless the same fuel and lubricant are used it is not possible to supply the same software/mapping to customers, and fo

107SS2009

February 05, 2016 7:10 PM

F1 » F1 engine token system set to be scrapped


FF1natic: Good, any limitation on developing is bad and hinders proper competition.
Yes sometime if not in most cases it does, but sometimes limitations are a necessity. As I have tried to explain, the theory/reasoning behind the change (dropping of development tokens) was/is that with the limitation on the number of engines and penalties there is no need for tokens, as the limitations and the penalties will do the same job, BUT doing away with the tokens will as I said introduce another double cutting edge knife that increases the possibilities of a two tier engine system which is already in use.

107SS2009

February 06, 2016 3:56 AM

F1 » F1 engine token system set to be scrapped


Jim, Yes there is a two tier PU system in place at present of which is allowed by the rules, I already said as much on here before, plus I had added that the two tier system was even used by Mercedes, Honda and Renault in between their own two cars, in short and directly 2Dpoint, the above named even used different engine specifications in their own two cars. As to why the possibility of an increase in two tier use is real, just trace back and read what Mercedes came out with as an excuse of not being able to supply their customers with the same specification/latest upgrades as they used on their own cars. Remember that the rules obliging manufacturers to supply their customers with same specification was there from the beginning of the new PU formula, but still on 4/10/2015 the FIA felt the need to once again push out article 23.4 sporting regulations for 2016.

107SS2009

February 05, 2016 7:30 AM

F1 » Renault braces for tough start but is 'back to win'


Omega: I too am very happy to see Renault return as a full manufacturer, but am more than a little sick and tired of them playing the victim in the whole RedBull situation. I really fail to see exactly how they can claim any plaudits in RedBull's 4 titles, other than it just happened to be a Renault lump in the back of the RedBulls. As fas as I could tell, the Renault V8 contributed nothing special in the RedBull titles. It was not an outstanding engine in any regard, in fact it was underpowered before they were given special dispensation to 'upgrade' it during the V8 engine development freeze.Everyone with half a brain knows that the RedBull titles were completely and utterly down to the superb chassis and aero of the Newey designed cars.As far as I'm concerned, it should be Renault thanking RedBull for thrusting them back into the winners circle after many long years in the midfield.
Sounds and looks like you are one of the few with a full brain followi

107SS2009

February 05, 2016 7:26 AM

F1 » Renault braces for tough start but is 'back to win'


mrfill:
107SS2009: Yesterday was a good day for formula one when Renault as a major car manufacturer launched their new FI team.
And even more so when the engine token system got dumped......
Dumping of the tokens performance development system is a knife with two cutting edges that has been added to the system. and don't forget that the number of PU'S use allowed and the penalties will certainly do the same job as limiting the number of tokens that can be used during a season.


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