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July 19, 2011 4:54 PM

MotoGP » Depressing race for Ducati


Dear John, Always a pleasure! Though I do take exception to the term Stonerite as I have yet to align myself with any faction for fear of retribution from the Crash hordes. For myself, I always enjoy having a laugh and your compliments, lack of content etc, are greatly appreciated. I have to turn in now. Goodnight to all crash posters. I have an excuse, do you? cheers

Painless

July 19, 2011 4:32 PM

MotoGP » Depressing race for Ducati


Mr John, Touch'e! It is fortunate that you do have special powers, of the type that another of our esteemed posters alluded to, that enable you to know these things about Rossi that the rest of us mere mortals could only hazard vague guesses about. With regard to the morphing of the thread into yet another example of the Stoner vs Rossi type, I was under the impression that this was the natural state of things here at the illustrious Crash forum. Is this not the case? cheers

Painless

July 19, 2011 4:17 PM

MotoGP » Depressing race for Ducati


Mr Simpson, Well I would use that word 'different' with some reservation. I think different as in "destroyer of motorcycle racing career' would be more apt. However, I stand corrected as I do not have any special abilities that would allow me to know that Stoner could win on a Vespa. It was just an assumption based on observation. I am sure you will be able to overlook my transgression.

Painless

July 19, 2011 4:05 PM

MotoGP » Depressing race for Ducati


Dear John, Thank you for taking the time to enlighten me. Allow me to reciprocate for your benefit. As I recall my point is that Stoner rides fast. He appears to be shining a little don't you think? Leading the championship and what have you. Though I expect that Lorenzo is going to be extremely difficult to beat over a season. However I think all this conjecture arose because of the curious case of Rossi on said Ducati, obviously a dog to ride, which gave rise to the initial point. I do not recall saying that Stoner was the only 'great rider' nor mentioning the words 'talent only' cheers

Painless

July 19, 2011 3:48 PM

MotoGP » Depressing race for Ducati


Dear John, Well you say that you bow to Mr How Good's superior knowledge, but we know you are just being facetious. Mr Good did not use the word win nor the word championship. He used the word quick. The topic being that Stoner appears to ride anything fast, like previous champions. Mike Hailwood springs to mind. Is that clear enough for you? I did mention that Stoner does not have the luxury of being a plodder because he is often thought of as lacking charisma and hails from a place that is deemed unsuitable. Have a nice day

Painless

July 19, 2011 3:26 PM

MotoGP » Depressing race for Ducati


Actually, Mr Homer Simpson, it is the first time we have seen Stoner on a bike that his competition have been riding and vice versa. When Rossi hopped onto Stoner's bike, while the seat was still warm after bagging second place. he almost had an aneurysm on the spot. He was so slow that no one could explain what was happening and to this day they keep saying things like "once upon a time he won 7 championships, oh and some others in the tiddler class" This, as they so enthusiastically point out, is true. It also has nothing whatsoever with the here and now. Best if we revert to Occam's razor, the simplest explanation is the most likely. That being, Stoner is fast on anything.

Painless

July 19, 2011 3:12 PM
Last Edited 1138 days ago

MotoGP » Depressing race for Ducati


Dear John. What Mr How Good is trying to tell you is something that if you rode a motorcycle you might understand. You observe Rossi being some amount of seconds a lap slower than Pedrosa, and then you think that if Stoner was so much faster on the Ducati and he is the God that you think some posters claim he is, then he should be that much faster again on the Honda. Sorry, physics is involved. The motorcycle will fall over or assuming you add another 100hp, the tyres will melt. Trying to squeeze fractions of a second on any of the top riders "on their day" is difficult, never mind seconds. Also, as I said, Stoner does not have the choice of being an 'also ran' and picking up the pay cheque. cheers

Painless

July 19, 2011 1:32 PM

MotoGP » Depressing race for Ducati


Much as posters like to slag off Ducati. Please consider that this small firm is the only one to beat the Japanese giants in the premiere class since 1974. Honda have a market cap of about 70 billion USD and Ducati about 200 million USD. They are truly the David against the Goliaths. Rossi faces a daunting task and I hope he has a measure of success as the little Italian factory adds to the grid in many ways. Most of the vitriol directed at Rossi is just payback for the childish insults that have been directed at Stoner in the past. It is not really worth responding to such comments as anybody who rides or has ridden motorcycles (not scooters) could see what Stoner was doing. Reminds me of Read and Agostini battles, and a fantastic shot of Read on the evil handling MV, all out of shape with Ago on the Yamaha taking evasive action behind. Arguing that Stoner could have just ridden around like Hayden and played it safe is naive. No Australian or 'minor country' rider will keep his seat


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