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May 21, 2015 11:03 AM

MotoGP » Dovi: Now the podium is not enough


.... unfortunately that's the only way Suzuki can compete. .... unfortunately that's the only way Aprilia can compete. Ducati did not make the rules nor did they ask for the rules to be made the way that they are. They had a choice, build a new bike and go Open class so they could develop the damn thing or quit MotoGP. Staying in the redundant 'factory' class would have been plain stupidity. They chose Open class, the only choice they had, which meant making their software available to everyone on the grid. But they were then pushed into a newly created Factory-Open class.

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May 21, 2015 2:24 PM

MotoGP » Dovi: Now the podium is not enough


Grantrd First, you do not speak for most people, and second, there is no argument. Dorna planned all along there is only one class and that is Open. Factory class is dead. The only reason it isn't dead already is because Honda threatened to quit MotoGP if they weren't allowed to have "factory" software. There is an endless sea of question marks if you want to go down that path. Here is one for you, the road going Desmosedici has a larger bore than the GP15. Why? Because Honda want concessions to force a lower rpm so they can keep up with their airbag valve springs. At the end of the day the record books will say such and such won the championship and no one will care about the rest.

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June 02, 2015 11:44 AM
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MotoGP » Race direction explains Iannone start line incident


@HappyT Factory class is dead. It would have been dead a lot sooner but Honda threatened to quit MotoGP if they weren't allowed to keep their army of electronics technicians and associated software. In any case all of your upper case FACTORY points are moot. There is only going to be one class and that is open. Concessions will be allowed for Honda or any other team that is struggling. Ducati did the smart thing and jumped to Open sooner than later. Then Dorna had to change the rules again to have a Factory-Open class because Honda were crying. Ducati did not ask to change any rules. They just followed them. As for Suzuki, do you think it make sense to force them to go to FACTORY class for half a season and then change back to Open? Suzuki and Aprilia have come back in because they have the chance to work on their bike before Open class becomes the norm. Under your proposal where they "should also have to comply" with FACTORY stupidity they would never have entered in the first place.

Painless

May 21, 2015 11:34 AM

MotoGP » Dovi: Now the podium is not enough


"I sure Ducati wants to keep those consession for 2016 as they can develop through the year where as Yamaha and honda are still bound by rules." Develop what exactly? The development freeze is on the engine. Ducati have always had ample power. They need to make their bike go around corners. Despite the so called "unlimited testing" the reality is that each rider has 120 tyres for the year. So Dovi and Iannone can't test every other weekend. Honda and Yamaha have exactly the same freedom as Ducati to test in private without using MotoGP riders.

Painless

May 21, 2015 3:46 PM

MotoGP » Dovi: Now the podium is not enough


Yes, I am a bigger fool than anyone could have expected . . . Poor Honda and poor Yamaha they have lost ummm. I'm sorry what have they lost again? Oh I remember they lost the MotoGP series in it's death throes with 15 bikes on the grid and the possibility of only two manufacturers. What else could Dorna do? Electronics were a path to self destruction. If Ducati do score a few hollow victories, as you prefer to see them, then they lose more concessions and at the rate that Dorna are willing to continue removing concessions it will soon be moot.


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