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TalentFan

October 08, 2014 7:06 PM

WSBK » Dorna: We need to go to growing markets


So, the manufacturer's want WSBK to go to new markets eh? Well, given the Mfr exodus from the series... perhaps THATS the motivation for Dorna's so-called initiative to 'expand' the series. They really haven't a clue have they (or they do and this is deliberate sabotage)? Mfrs won't enter Factory Teams into a series that's not getting the viewer numbers and interest. Dorna are chasing the wrong cash cow here. GET the RACING right, then you get the Audience. Get the audience, THEN you get the attention of the Mfrs and Sponsors. To get the RACING right, you have to get the RULES right, so that you have genuine sporting, close competition, NOT some manufactured shambolic pretence that is all Dorna seem to be able to conjure. No attractive, saleable Product, then you have no takers & no Business.

TalentFan

October 08, 2014 7:00 PM

WSBK » Dorna: We need to go to growing markets


ProfessorX: If I were dorna, I would hire better script writers and find a way to introduce real competition in to a series that is too heavily dominated by certain interests. Else, it's just a predictable uninteresting drama that exposes too much risk to the guys trying to chase a dream.
Well I'm firmly with the Prof on this one. Why? Cos if the events are boring non-contested processional dirge, then it'll bomb. Doesn't matter where a fan is from to a degree, what he wants to watch is close hard RACING. Racing IS the Product of a Racing Series. If something is boring carp, then spectators lose interest enthusiasm, & the motivation to go out of their way to watch it. If Dorna really wanted to revive WSBK, then taking a series with fudged rules that seem to be fostering the stratified multi-tier carp MotoGP is sadlled with to new tracks just will not cut the mustard.

TalentFan

October 08, 2014 7:18 PM

WSBK » Guintoli: This is a gamble…


Realist:
PR:
Realist: He's just not in the business of giving up all of his deserved wins.
I don't know in what business he thinks he is, but clearly the team thought otherwise. And I fully support the team's decision to maximize SG's chances for the championship. If it were MM in SG's shoes, I would think the same.
Water under the proverbial bridge at this point. In a few races nobody will even think about it.
Are you SURE about that? If MM proves to be THE factor that put the kibosh on Aprilia's season, when they expressly asked him to play for the team.... thats one hell of a lot for Aprilia to forgive and forget. Conceivably the shockwave repercussions might cost the Company millions.

TalentFan

October 08, 2014 5:56 PM

WSBK » Melandri: Win in race two is fair compensation


Realist:
TalentFan: So... do you really think that lil Marco can't have doors closed in his face?
Oh no, I totally think you're spot on with regards to the possibility. I just don't personally think this incident will cause that.
Marco had better hope you are right! However, imagine a (very possible) scenario where Aprilia & Guintoli lose the WC.. by a margin less than the points difference that Marco's actions prevented Guintoli from accruing...... If MM proves to be THE factor that put the kibosh on Aprilia's season, when they expressly asked him to play for the team.... thats one hell of a lot for Aprilia to forgive and forget. Conceivably the shockwave repercussions might cost the Company millions.

TalentFan

October 08, 2014 6:51 PM

MotoGP » Crutchlow: Motegi hard braking good for me


Yossarian: If its manipulated results or championships you're after its superbikes for you.
Really funny! Oh, the irony. If you meant that as a joke posting that on a MotoGP thread (demonstrably THE most stratified & non-competitive motorcycle circuit racing series there is)........ then you're a comedy genius Yosser! If you were weren't joking and meant that comment to be taken seriously.... oh dear.

TalentFan

October 08, 2014 6:46 PM

MotoGP » Crutchlow: Motegi hard braking good for me


Codger: Rain is a great leveller and that in itself should reduce the top 4s advantages, it doesn't need pit stops.
Rain USED to be a great leveller. Nowhere near so much now. And (deny it or not) the reason why its not as much of a leveller now is very clear..... Yup, its those electronic rider aids again. Before you all groan, think about it first. Launch Control, not rider clutch and throttle control Traction Control not rider brain-wrist-talent throttle management. Seamless gearboxes, with modulated clutch and throttle application. Data solutions strategies for engine braking, not rider clutch feathering and skilled control. The guy with the best data solutions uploads still has the upper hand in the wet. TBH Marquez & Pedro screwed up BADLY to throw away a strong finish on those bikes.

TalentFan

October 08, 2014 6:17 PM

MotoGP » Rossi: Fight for second ‘getting interesting’


Problem is... is that no Fan wants to believe that his Hero's wins are largely due to some innocuous small black boxes and some computer code giving him an edge, in a hi-tech GP world where a 0.01% edge COUNTS... instead Fans desperately WANT it to be all about their chosen riders talent, skill and bravery - the modern day gladiatorial figure etc. Can't say I blame fans for that. However.. it does mean that instead of accepting the reality (there's SO much evidence ramming it home, IF you're prepared to see it) Fans are in denial about it. Think I'm wrong? Try suggesting that (esp.) Rossi or Marquez are succeeding due to their technolgy advantages, and you'll get flamed to a crisp by righteously indignant & over-protective fans of the rider in question. Trust me, I need a damn Fire Truck on standby for suggesting such things. But.. if Fans faced up to reality, and then made enough noise about wanting GP's to be all about Rider talent etc.... then they'd have a much better chance

TalentFan

October 08, 2014 5:40 PM

MotoGP » Rossi: Fight for second ‘getting interesting’


"I think not enough credit is given to the new and ever increasing technology used in bikes to make riders improve much faster than when the technology was less or didn't exist on Motogp motorbikes." Posted by MotoMarc. He's right. Nowhere near enough credit is given to the technology. Its now the biggest influence on the competitiveness, but most fans still insist its the rider. At this level, ALL the riders are top class. While there will always be one guy doing a bit better on a given day than another, its the technology that makes consistent winners and losers, and its the disparity in the technology and data solutions that means no 2 riders may have the same potential in the package they sit on. Which is why MM didn't need a learning period like a rider coming from 125Hp to 275Hp would be expected to. Take away the rider-aid technology, and you change the game enormously.

TalentFan

October 08, 2014 5:13 PM

MotoGP » Rossi: Fight for second ‘getting interesting’


Brain:
TalentFan: However... IF they were riding 2005 bikes then the odds of Marquez being beaten ( or crashing his brains out trying to ride such a bike like he does his current one) are much higher IMO. This is not me being pro Rossi & anti Marquez. It's just a reasonable observation. A lot has changed in MotoGP since it's inception.
Its all speculation and opinion, but after seeing what Marquez did in Moto 2 without electronics , i would speculate that the gap may be wider between him and his rivals without rider aids. Be careful what you wish for, 2016 and beyond could be the anti Marquez brigade's worst nightmare.
I'm not anti-Marquez. I'm anti the multi-tier system of performance and control & regulation by rivals of other rivals, & the rules making the cheque-book king, which in turn means MM hasn't got much proper competition to beat.


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