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TalentFan

June 17, 2014 7:00 AM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


JimmyTheRealOne: Marquez had no machinery advantage in Moto2, quite the contrary. And his MotoGP superiority? Well, a title in his rookie season and seven consecutive wins in the next - you really can't contribute that only to his presumed "advantage".
1. You say no M2 machinery advantage (while overlooking his huge budgets, testing and the huge weight advantage). But just cos you say it and want to believe it doesn't make it true. 2. If coming into supposedly the highest level championship in the world and getting the results MM has had from day 1 would (from any inelligent and objective perspective) lend far more weight to the theory that MM arrived with a serious technical, setup and equipment advantage over 95% of the field. 3. I'm not saying the lad isnt talented. But to deny his massive advantages Repsol gives him is to live in denial.

TalentFan

June 16, 2014 9:56 PM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


I'm in a minority as usual. I think Titles as well as Wins are virtually meaningless unless they are hard won and fairly won in a truly sporting and truly competitive environment. Its been getting worse for years now, and pretty dire since 2008. But even though MM is one hell of a pilot his wins and titles in MotoGP are achieved with so much advantage (Moto2 also) it devalues such things terribly. Now I dont suppose any of this is any if MMs doing.... but it still means the lad is being credited with being superior through his statistics to a lot of previous generation racers who really, really had to fight and control their bikes without aids and against very strong opponents to get their victories. Thats just not right. Marquez should be made to really earn his victories, then he will be able to have the validity of being a champion. Like I said before.... Tai Woofindens Speedway WC was hard won against super tough in depth opposition on genuinely competitive equipment. So th

TalentFan

June 17, 2014 3:56 PM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


Oh dear. Always with the never ending bickering about riders. The my dad could beat up your dad kiddie crud. No wonder my opinions are unpopular... Seems so many aren't far enough out of kindergarten. It is the bikes, technology and electronics, and the amount of data crunching resources you have access to that creates 'wins' in the MotoGP era far more than riders. History suggests Stoners unique talent bucked that trend at Ducati. The decline in his win ratio also proved the relentless march of technology will always trump even exceptional natural human ability. It's now probably 90% about the technical package the rider sits on, & maybe 10% the pilot when it comes to race pace. The riders don't do the setup, launch, throttle control, clutch control etc in today's MotoGP. The most influential human input is most likely the data engineers, not the rider in today's so-called MotoGP Racing. So which rider is the best is pretty much irrelevant, & bickering about it is irreleva

TalentFan

June 17, 2014 7:12 AM

MotoGP » ‘Power cut’ strategy costs Lorenzo


V4Poweeeer: "Do you know for sure 100% that AE isn't running corner by corner TC?" It was one of Haydens first impressions of the bike remember when Ducati made the open class switch debacle and the introduction of the updated software on the Marelli unit that was ti be introduced but due to lack of resources by the open class teams it wasn't introduced and Ducati got to keep their software after a last minute go commission decision. The open teams will get an updated software package soon I believe.
Then the whole Open direction has been neutered and Factory dominance will continue way past 2016. They needed to curb OTT electronics, not ramp Open up! No wonder Honda have stopped moaning - their behind the scenes strong-arming has got them what they want anyhow. With their resources to optimise electronic strategies MotoGP stays a 2 - 4 horse race for the forseeable. So no future for racing fans with MotoGP then IMO.

TalentFan

June 16, 2014 1:34 PM

MotoGP » 'Best race of the season' for runner-up Rossi


Let's say Rossi wins at Assen. The fans go wild etc. Cue gazillions of post proclaiming that the Master is Back. But what will it really mean, and what would it change overall in MotoGP? In all probability, very little. The Repsols are too optimised everywhere to start losing points heavily enough to get beaten. If Rossi wins Assen the fans will love it, but it won't change the outcome of the season or change the pattern of most race weekends. The technology and data crunching going into the bikes determines mostly whose finishing where. The riders don't have enough input into the setting nor the bikes controls any more to be making enough contribution to the performance on Race day. Sorry if that bursts any bubbles, but that's just how it is. (I should get the record for posts deleted without trolling at this rate eh Crash!).

TalentFan

June 16, 2014 9:27 PM

MotoGP » 'Best race of the season' for runner-up Rossi


KnowNothing:
TalentFan: Let's say Rossi wins at Assen. The fans go wild etc. Cue gazillions of post proclaiming that the Master is Back. But what will it really mean, and what would it change overall in MotoGP? In all probability, very little.
Means little for this season, but adds interest to next season if Yam can catch up. If VR and JL are doing this well with a development freeze, it would be in Yams best interest to go all out during off season to catch Honda with 2 excellent riders. Of course this could all be negated if Honda makes an equal leap forward, but there is potential nonetheless.
IMO a Rossi Assen win won't signify the start of a Yamaha renaissance in 14 or 15 seasons. IF Yamaha can string several convincing wins and 1-2's then maybe, but I doubt it'll happen. HRC spent a lot of time & money arranging their team into their dominant position & arent about to let that change.

TalentFan

June 16, 2014 4:47 PM

MotoGP » ‘Power cut’ strategy costs Lorenzo


@ V4 Do you know for sure 100% that AE isn't running corner by corner TC? If he isn't then it's all the more shame the lad is in midfield anonymity due to technology, cos it means he is punching even higher above his weight than I thought. I agree 100% with your optimised tyres etc though and the positive impact on minimising time from lights to flag. If the tech wasn't there to maximise everything we would see a lot more racing and many more riders on the podium over a season - it's having the scope to make mistakes and lose time as well as ride brilliantly and make time that is what racing is supposed to be all about after all. A machine can do lots of things better and more consistently than a human. But I have no empathy of interest in a machine doing that. Sport is about human endeavour and challenge to me (which is why MotoGP has fallen way down my list of ways to spend my leisure time).

TalentFan

June 16, 2014 12:43 PM

MotoGP » 'Best race of the season' for runner-up Rossi


Theres 4 bikes capable and supported well enough to run top 4 consistently. (Of those) The Repsols are consistently better overall than the Yamahas. So Hondas will secure the most points and also secure both rider and constructor titles. Within their team structures the factory HRC & Yam riders will have some small variations which affect competitiveness as well as random outside effects that cannot be controlled and regulated by the Teams. It is only these external influences that introduce any uncertainty into a team like Repsol Honda. The riders don't have anything like as much to do with the outcome as fans wish to believe, would like, or as they should. And it's unlikely now to change. So who becomes MotoGP WC doesn't thrill or inspire me, as the title has no value IMO. Tai Woffinden's Speedway WC is worthy, MotoGPs is not. I now await the deleting of another unwelcome but honest post by Crash!


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