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TalentFan

October 06, 2014 8:03 PM

WSBK » Guintoli: This is a gamble…


Indianbear: who besides a low life would want to hold up a trophy they didnt win
Theoretically? Every rider who races where he holds significant technical, equipment, data, budget etc advantages over most, nearly all, or all of his rivals. Which means that pretty much ALL the big names in GP history, including Agostini, Rossi & Marquez. I don't disagree with your sentiments, but the Fanboys woukd be apoplectic with rage if you joined the dots like I just did! IMO Teams have a right to use Team Orders... after all it is their bikes and team, and their riders are employees hired to do a job which jncludes aiding the Team in the Mfr title race. Melandri has stuck 2 fingers up to his employer. They should fire him.

TalentFan

October 06, 2014 8:24 PM

WSBK » Melandri: Win in race two is fair compensation


Naivety from those supporting MM's arrogance and total disregard for the best interests and wishes of his employer. Chances are MM just put the skids under both his teammates rider title AND Aprilias title aspirations. This was a totally spoilt brat, up-yours display from MM. Totally unprofessional. Aprilia should fire him, and if they did its likely that no other big team would want him. Being fast and ruthless is essential in a racer.... but then so is the ability and professionalism to support the Team when reason and situation requires it. I'd have handed him his P45 in Parc Ferme.

TalentFan

October 07, 2014 7:41 AM

WSBK » Guintoli: This is a gamble…


Question? If the situation were reversed, do fans believe that Guintoli would have accepted his supporting role in assisting in achieving Aprilias best interests, and gracefully played wing man to Melandri's lead role? SG is a Pro, & mature enough to see the positives for the Team & for his own reputation. IMO he'd have subtly held station & followed MM home, & not looked to embarrass or damage his Team. As a Team Principal.... Which rider would you want? Being fast but a damn poor ambassador is not enough any more. I think it's possible that Melandri just shot himself in the foot, & might just have badly damaged his employability with any top team, & any future career & title aspirations with his actions.

TalentFan

October 07, 2014 7:20 AM

WSBK » Guintoli: This is a gamble…


.... You watch Marco body language in the 2nd Race interview? No eye contact & a feeble excuse, with a weak attempt to justify if by saying he took the decision for the benefit of his personal sponsors. Do YOU believe MM keeping anyone other than himself happy was MM's motivation? Melandri single handedly turned what should have been a superb double 1-2 race weekend full of positives for Aprilia and both riders (MM COULD have milked the loyal rider and supporter of his team mates title run for massive brownie points with Team & Fans).... Into a PR Disaster. IMO melandri behaved much like Vettel has for Red Bull & decided to do exactly what he wants & to hell with the Team. He knew v well what his job should have been this weekend - he did a very sulky & poorly managed strop job in R1, & then R2.. He could not have made a worse PR job for him & Aprilia if he'd tried. Aprilia are crazy if they retain him IMO.

TalentFan

October 07, 2014 7:15 AM

WSBK » Guintoli: This is a gamble…


Aprilia NEEDS a Title IndianBear. As a co they are wobbly, their bikes aren't selling all that well, and they need the positive marketing and media exposure a WC can give them. Yes of course Aprilia covet the Mfr Title. But like it of not, all the Mfrs know that it's the Riders WC that garners the most attention from Fans and Media by MILES, the Mfr is virtually a side note (except to the Mfrs themselves). You watch Marc......

TalentFan

October 06, 2014 9:46 PM

WSBK » Guintoli: This is a gamble…


KnowNothing: cont... To throw more into the mix, as MM said, taking second in the second race wasnt fair to his personal sponsors. In the long run, like him or not, I think MM made the best move for his long term career.
Im not so sure. MM is an employee of the Team, not an entirely independent entity. Would a top tier professional Team want a rider who disregards the needs of his Team and one whk cannot be trusted? Even personal sponsors - are they entirely happy to be associated with a personality demonstrating purely selfish attitude and zero loyalty - does MM present an attractive, honourable and positive face to a Sponsors target market? MM's personality traits shown again here - not ones to endear MM to anyone investing in him I'd have thought.

TalentFan

October 07, 2014 10:52 AM

WSBK » Melandri: Win in race two is fair compensation


bobba: any "champion" who has won a championship by having someone let them by is not in my eyes any kind of champion.
I support Riders, but you have to accept its a Team Event too, and the Team are the Employer. They spend the big bucks and have the right to expect a Rider with no Championship hopes not to hinder the chances of another Team Rider.
if you have to rely on someone else to get a win then it isn't really a win.
Then you need to dismiss the Titles of every single Champion in History - ALL have had better kit & support than most rivals, and Team orders and No1/No2 status etc. etc. No-one did it 100% unaided. No one.
Teams and there are lots of them in many forms of racing that condone or allow this are pathetic.
Again. TEAM Event. TEAM bikes. TEAM Engineers. TEAM Rider / Employee. They ALL will do this if required to a greater or lesser degree. I cannot see any Team not asking Melandri to play

TalentFan

October 07, 2014 8:39 AM

WSBK » Melandri: Win in race two is fair compensation


Question. If Gigi were still boss, how do you think he'd handle this? Me? I reckon Gigi would quietly see to it that Melandri did EXACTLY what he was damn well told (without any hissy fits or embarrassing hand-overs as well) in Qatar, with the clear message that if MM does not support the best interests of Aprilia he'll part company with the team after Qatar. In fact, if Aprilia & Guintoli lose the WC as a direct result of Melandri's actions, then he should be canned anyway. I think Gigi would not tolerate Marco putting himself ahead of the Team under these circumstances. I wonder how it will actually be handled?

TalentFan

October 07, 2014 10:58 AM

WSBK » Melandri: Win in race two is fair compensation


...... I cannot see any Team not asking Melandri to play a supporting role under these particular circumstances. I'm accused of being Idealistic - I think you're taking it to a whole new and unrealistic level. I am all for Sporting and Fair Play, but this HAS to be tempered with a Rider understanding that its not just all about his own personal ambition and aspirations - he HAS to consider the needs of the Team he rides for. Aprilia have clearly 'played fair' and done their best all season to put the best bike they possibly could under Melandri, and given him a run at the WC. It didn't pan out & he had no mathematical chance of the Title, while the Team through Guintoli did. As a direct consequence of his actions, Melandri's employer might have lost a Title that they had a very good opportunity to win. That means he has failed in his responsibilities and duty to that Team IMO. Like I said... I'd never hire Melandri. Totally petulant and unprofessional, at an age where he should

TalentFan

October 06, 2014 7:33 PM

MotoGP » Loris Baz lands Forward Yamaha ride


ProfessorX Marco Simoncelli laughs at all the "tall" people cannot ride in GPs. There is enough fuel in the Honda to power a tall pilot. The problem is the sponsor, and how much money the team has and the guys with laptops. It has nothing to do with height. Height is some bull sh*t the commentators try to say in order to excuse why tall people are not doing well in GPs. Fact is only 2 or 3 pilots do well in GPs, the others are just filler for the grid,
Even the Honda of #58 had 1 more Litre than now. And Marco could lap superfast yes, but they had to lean his bike right off and he'd still be touch n go on making race distance esp. at hard acceleration stop/go circuits. I fully agree that politics & skullduggery rules MotoGP, but the silly and Honda-led fuel limits are all part of that. The Laws of Physics still apply!


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