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TalentFan

July 31, 2014 5:47 PM

WSBK » Suzuki keen to retain Lowes, Laverty for 2015


RSMick: Whatever you want to believe Mr Talentfan, that is what it was developed for and that is what the UK have been spouting for years "We like WSB because its relative to the bikes we can ride" Trouble is they are nothing like them
Truth more like in WSBK heyday was simply that Mick Doohan was making GP's boring, Aprilia with their Honda-esque management and doimination made 250's pretty boring.... and WSBK had some great racing characters (not necessarily nice ones, but characters) and string racing rivalries with the likes of Foggy, Slight, Edwards, Haga, Chilli, Russell, Kocinski, etc. It was an absolute riot at the campsite and at the races at Donington in '95. I know I sound like an old fart, but for sure those WSBK days seemed like a lot more fun, and a lot more 'on the edge'.

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 2:31 PM

WSBK » Suzuki keen to retain Lowes, Laverty for 2015


RSMick: Motogp promote the brand and develope, SBK is a showroom for the model.
Who says that's how it has to be? Anyway, if that were true no Sponsor who had anything to promote other than Motorcycles would be involved in motorcycle sport! What do Snacks, Mobile Phones, Energy Drinks, Tools, even petrol have to do directly with any motorcycle model? Nothing. ALL Sponsorship in Sporting Events is all about Brand Promotion. To say WSBK is just about being a Showroom for the Model is rubbish. For sure Kawasaki want to promote the ZX10R. But they will be just as happy if the Kawasaki name gets a punter to walk into a showroom and buy their new 300cc Scooter. If the quality of the WSBK Racing and Entertainment draws a mass audience, then there will always be Sponsors looking to be on board to promote their brand and products off the back of it - either through sponsorship or even by having a TV ad on in the commercial break in the programming. Ultimately

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 2:10 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


Brain: If i start calling BS on your rants, will you promise to leave again.
I can come and go as I please Brain. On here as well as anywhere else in the wide world. I dare say you could as well, just so long as you have a parent or guardian to take responsibility for you. Don't worry, when you grow up then you'll be allowed out on your own too!

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 4:32 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


@ Moto89 I deleted posts because I did indeed think it was all getting too petty and rather boring. I considered deleting my entire account and history briefly - as I thought that if you represent the typical MotoGP fan, then fans deserve all the dross Dorna can serve up for them. However, I couldn't see a way to actually do that. However, if you choose to look back through my post history (no, I know you won't but they are there) you'll see that I'm pretty consistent, and don't set out on personal attacks (though I've been drawn into retaliation a few times when I agree perhaps I should not). I try to base posts on reasoning. Not facts, as none of us on here are likely to get many reliable facts and figures. However, that does not mean that meaningful conclusions and telling information cannot be drawn out - it just takes a little honest thinking about what it all means. Grand Prix Racing HAS been corrupted badly so it isn't a true sporting competition. That is an inescapab

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 4:41 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


....... That is an inescapable truth - its right in front of you all the time. Just because you choose to live in denial and have a go at me for trying to get more people to understand this (so there might be change) doesn't change that truth. As for where I got the idea that Marquez never had to learn to set up a motorcycle.... I actually said he didn't have to learn to set up his MotoGP bike. And... (given that Marquez got straight on it and was able to lap at competitive pace straight off) its a reasonable conclusion to draw when HRC have a vast Library of Stoner's and Pedrosa's settings and the settings for all the ECU and systems from all tracks and all race conditions in their databanks. I said MM didnt have to serve an apprenticeship and a learning period because the data reliance and records meant he didn't have to. His results and pace straight out of the box on day 1 of his MotoGP career prove that conclusion pretty conclusively IMO.

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 5:22 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


TedG: TalentFan, I wish I had kept my 73 H2 and most of all my 67 YL1-E. I am going to find another YL1 and restore it.
Ted. After riding one of the YSD5's of a mate with a 350 top-end on, I got one of the very last (reg in 1980 - after the LC was out) of the RD250's (an L I think) as a teen. In classic Speedblock Red/White, with cast wheels and disc brakes f/r, and no '250' decals on the sidepanels so it looked almost like the 400. It was my first bike that wasn't a single, and I thought it was fantastic. I spent some time on a 350LC and it was great, but always hankered after a late RD400. Never did get my hands on one.

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 2:00 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


@ RSMick. Actually I think the natural limit for technology and innovation IN SPORT, is the point at which the technology ceases challenging the human input, and instead replaces it. In the past racing machines were always ultimately dependent upon the direct input and decisions of the pilot. This is no longer true and has not been for a long time. Its just getting more and more prevalent, and so more and more damaging to motorcycle racing as Sport. @ Brain / Moto89 / grantrd I don't agree with RSMicks standpoint etc. but I can at least credit him with something between his ears and a mental age above 8. You're little gang of brain-donors, with your muck-raking? Haha! Hardly. Btw geniuses. My agenda is nothing more than a wish for Grand Prix to be a proper respectable Racing series, where ALL the pilots better than any of us could have ever hoped to be get to demonstrate their skills head-to-head in a fair contest. There's nothing wrong with wanting Sport to be sporting you d

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 1:49 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


...... Whatever MotoGP is or is not, I am certain that it would not meet the criteria to satisfy any Definition of Sport. So it cannot honestly be called Racing. I genuinely believe that without introducing measures to get Real Racing back into MotoGP that its days are ultimately numbered - you can only get away with a sham Sport for so long. The problem for Mfrs is that for Sport & MotoGP to thrive and survive, that their technological gizmos will have to be culled, and the series return to relying on proper racing where the best man wins through skills and applied experience / talent. Which means they can't buy success like they can now. Unfortunately (as I have said before) the wants and needs of Factory's and the wants and needs of Sport are not at all compatible. Ultimately thats the Elephant In The Room that Dorna must ultimately face, or watch Grand Prix Racing wither and die.


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