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TalentFan

June 17, 2014 7:00 AM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


JimmyTheRealOne: Marquez had no machinery advantage in Moto2, quite the contrary. And his MotoGP superiority? Well, a title in his rookie season and seven consecutive wins in the next - you really can't contribute that only to his presumed "advantage".
1. You say no M2 machinery advantage (while overlooking his huge budgets, testing and the huge weight advantage). But just cos you say it and want to believe it doesn't make it true. 2. If coming into supposedly the highest level championship in the world and getting the results MM has had from day 1 would (from any inelligent and objective perspective) lend far more weight to the theory that MM arrived with a serious technical, setup and equipment advantage over 95% of the field. 3. I'm not saying the lad isnt talented. But to deny his massive advantages Repsol gives him is to live in denial.

TalentFan

June 16, 2014 9:56 PM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


I'm in a minority as usual. I think Titles as well as Wins are virtually meaningless unless they are hard won and fairly won in a truly sporting and truly competitive environment. Its been getting worse for years now, and pretty dire since 2008. But even though MM is one hell of a pilot his wins and titles in MotoGP are achieved with so much advantage (Moto2 also) it devalues such things terribly. Now I dont suppose any of this is any if MMs doing.... but it still means the lad is being credited with being superior through his statistics to a lot of previous generation racers who really, really had to fight and control their bikes without aids and against very strong opponents to get their victories. Thats just not right. Marquez should be made to really earn his victories, then he will be able to have the validity of being a champion. Like I said before.... Tai Woofindens Speedway WC was hard won against super tough in depth opposition on genuinely competitive equipment. So th

TalentFan

June 17, 2014 3:56 PM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


Oh dear. Always with the never ending bickering about riders. The my dad could beat up your dad kiddie crud. No wonder my opinions are unpopular... Seems so many aren't far enough out of kindergarten. It is the bikes, technology and electronics, and the amount of data crunching resources you have access to that creates 'wins' in the MotoGP era far more than riders. History suggests Stoners unique talent bucked that trend at Ducati. The decline in his win ratio also proved the relentless march of technology will always trump even exceptional natural human ability. It's now probably 90% about the technical package the rider sits on, & maybe 10% the pilot when it comes to race pace. The riders don't do the setup, launch, throttle control, clutch control etc in today's MotoGP. The most influential human input is most likely the data engineers, not the rider in today's so-called MotoGP Racing. So which rider is the best is pretty much irrelevant, & bickering about it is irreleva

TalentFan

June 17, 2014 7:12 AM

MotoGP » ‘Power cut’ strategy costs Lorenzo


V4Poweeeer: "Do you know for sure 100% that AE isn't running corner by corner TC?" It was one of Haydens first impressions of the bike remember when Ducati made the open class switch debacle and the introduction of the updated software on the Marelli unit that was ti be introduced but due to lack of resources by the open class teams it wasn't introduced and Ducati got to keep their software after a last minute go commission decision. The open teams will get an updated software package soon I believe.
Then the whole Open direction has been neutered and Factory dominance will continue way past 2016. They needed to curb OTT electronics, not ramp Open up! No wonder Honda have stopped moaning - their behind the scenes strong-arming has got them what they want anyhow. With their resources to optimise electronic strategies MotoGP stays a 2 - 4 horse race for the forseeable. So no future for racing fans with MotoGP then IMO.

TalentFan

June 17, 2014 4:58 PM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


............ As a racer yourself... Would you feel a competitor you raced against had an unfair advantage and was winning through tech rather than talent if he beat you? Just because I read and write does not mean I can't ride a motorbike pretty well and understand what a machine feels like on a racetrack y'know. You've just assumed I can't ride anything more than an armchair.

TalentFan

June 17, 2014 4:57 PM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


Ok Ian33 As a 'racer' yourself ( doubtless you actually have to actually use the clutch and gears as well as control the throttle with your wrist and reflexes - unless you have a very new and very expensive race bike with TC?) Do you think that a MotoGP racer is doing all of the job with all the rider aids? Is it his skill that gets the bike off the line without too much wheelie or spin? Is it skill that allows them to back shift 3 gears without wheel lock or clutch feathering? Is it the riders deft touch that makes best use of grip v wear on the tyres? Is it all the MotoGP rider who taps in the perfect amount if throttle out of every turn to maximise drive and prevent a slide? A clubbie racer has to do all these things. A MotoGP star has onboard systems to do this for him, and the chap with the best sorted system does the best, yes? As a racer yourself... Would you feel a competitor you raced against had an unfair advantage and was winning through tech rather than talent

TalentFan

June 17, 2014 4:21 PM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records


Nope. Have YOU? I'll answer for you. No - you haven't. So what is your point? I can look at what is freely available information on the technical aspects and abilities of teams and draw logical conclusions without having to actually ride the bike. Just like most journos and professionals connected to a sport would do in fact as very few of them ever get to ride one either. Don't worry. I'm used to people not liking what I post as what I write spoils the fantasy. Come up with a reasoned argument to suggest my post is wrong. I'll certainly respect that even if I don't agree with it.

TalentFan

June 16, 2014 9:27 PM

MotoGP » 'Best race of the season' for runner-up Rossi


KnowNothing:
TalentFan: Let's say Rossi wins at Assen. The fans go wild etc. Cue gazillions of post proclaiming that the Master is Back. But what will it really mean, and what would it change overall in MotoGP? In all probability, very little.
Means little for this season, but adds interest to next season if Yam can catch up. If VR and JL are doing this well with a development freeze, it would be in Yams best interest to go all out during off season to catch Honda with 2 excellent riders. Of course this could all be negated if Honda makes an equal leap forward, but there is potential nonetheless.
IMO a Rossi Assen win won't signify the start of a Yamaha renaissance in 14 or 15 seasons. IF Yamaha can string several convincing wins and 1-2's then maybe, but I doubt it'll happen. HRC spent a lot of time & money arranging their team into their dominant position & arent about to let that change.


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