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TalentFan

March 21, 2014 1:49 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


@ rbr46 You REALLY think that any of this bespoke, racing specific electronics is going to filter down to road bikes? Er.... No. Where's the corner specific data settings for every road on the planet going to come from, that suit every rider and every condition? Etc., etc. Road bikes have solutions that are already more than will ever be needed. If you get more it'll be due to more marketing dept meets gullible punter than stuff anyone actually needs. Years ago I think Bike Magazine ran a data logger on a one litre sports bike to find out just how much of its power and performance was used by a very good professional rider on the road. I can't recall all the details but recall that for something like over 90% of the time the typical power use was around 40bhp or less! You really think a road rider needs switchable power maps and other such gimmicks, let alone corner by corner settings? Look at something like Yamahas MT-07. That has more performance than the vast majority of

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 5:03 PM

MotoGP » Aleix Espargaro stays top in Qatar


One thing this does prove, which I mentioned a couple of times last season only for certain others to tell me that regardless of technology and bikes that the quickest boys would always be at the front. I said that for all we knew that Aleix Espagaro MIGHT just be super fast but his 3rd Tier bike means he had no chance to prove it. This was denied. But here he is topping the time sheets and going quicker than Stoners record lap. If ever solid proof and a damn good argument for Dorna getting all the bikes pegged a lot more even so that the riders can all actually have a real chance.... Then AE's performances on the Forward Yamaha is it. Here's proof positive that the bike and package makes a huge impact in today's MGP - forget the 80% rider, 20% bike soundbyte.... It was never true in MGP.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 2:41 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


I'm happy to accept your expertise with vehicle positioning systems and happy to believe you when you say it's very difficult. Thing is.... Isn't it a lot easier when you have a track and a rider with a bike which pretty much hits the same inch or 2 over maybe 3 miles or less with multiple corners and very different sections.... Than it would be to design a system to cope with regular roads and traffic, congestion, road works, diversions etc etc? I assume here that your work is not in the racing field of course? Isn't a racing lap actually a car easier prospect to programme for? And even if it is still super-hard... The factories have a small army of the very, very best software engineers to task with overcoming these issues, right? Honestly... Do you really believe it to be beyond them?

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 5:18 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


AFAIAC anyway..... "Honda wouldn't go for a rev limit" is exactly the sort of problem that everyone needs to get past. Honda are an entrant in the Series. Competitors do not get to decide what rules they will play by. They just get to decide whether they abide by the rules as issued by the series organiser, or whether they choose not to compete. That's it. Even Mike Webb from Dorna has advocated and supported a rev limit as the single most effective tool to contain costs and level the playing field. It's easy to implement and easy to police and offers no easy work around no matter how thick your wallet is. No wonder Honda don't like it. But we should like the idea, And so should Dorna. Perhaps now Dorna have grown a pair they'll introduce one sooner than 2016. Too much to hope for perhaps.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 4:48 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


@ RSMick If you mean me with that slightly caustic remark then I beat you to it a while ago. I've long been a critic of Dorna due mainly to them rolling over and letting the Mfrs run riot over GPs. But I supported and applauded Open Class as an initiative and step in the right direction (which they promptly undermined with the Factory2 thing, and them got some of their Brownie points back with the current compromise). Dorna are beginning to do what I've been wanting them to do for a v long time... So why would I have a beef with them for doing it? Better late than never. You're trying to shut a door that's already been closed.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 2:17 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


@ Truefan Forget GPS. No one but you is talking about GPS. If they have data and a timeline for a number of laps to get a baseline they can extrapolate and create a virtual lap for the bikes ECU. There are reported instances where a rider has for example taken a short cut after running on or gone through the pit and not reset where this has resulted on the bike being practically I rideable as the bike is setting up for section f when it's actually at section h or similar. This sort of thing would seem to confirm that Factory teams at least are most certainly able to do what we are saying, and are doing so.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 2:11 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


@ Truefan You've considered that a Team could download data off all the bikes sensors and then compute solutions for each part of said track without GPS right? They can use time and data overlay to pinpoint exactly where the data relates to every key point on track using time, throttle position, braking points, gear, weight transfer, acceleration, decelleration, etc and many other sources to be able to develop settings for every part of the track. Construct a virtual track and then a virtual section by section ECU programme to optimise all TC as well as ignition, slipper clutch setting etc etc etc. If I can think of a theoretical way to do it you can bet your life the boffins at the Factory Teams have worked out how to do it 10x better than I could imagine possible. Don't you think?

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 2:33 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


Then.... Why do we have reported examples and even rider reports of it happening? Also... Isn't it possible to use other sensors or data triggers to "inform" the ECU where it is on track to create natural reset points? I dunno how about the hardest braking point from the highest speed ( braking marker end of main straight), slowest speed with highest lean (hairpin)... And so on. Add in the natural compensations of TC for lower fuel and lower grip etc and you have a comprehensive data stream for the ECU to "know" where it is and what do set its various settings at. Again.... If I can think of it.......

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 1:23 PM

MotoGP » Smith explains lack of grip, 'Lorenzo will improve'


Wouldn't it be SO much better and SO much more interesting if the teams were UNABLE to record and download dozens of parameters to provide the data TO write electronic setup strategies to maximise tyre grip? If it was just down to rider feel, communication between rider and crew chief, and the Teams ability to translate verbal information on rider feel and feedback ... Wouldn't that mix it up track to track and make every quali and race much more exciting? Hang on..... Didn't they used to do it that way until just a few short years ago? Sensors and data... The bane of modern racing IMO.


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