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TalentFan

March 21, 2014 1:49 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


@ rbr46 You REALLY think that any of this bespoke, racing specific electronics is going to filter down to road bikes? Er.... No. Where's the corner specific data settings for every road on the planet going to come from, that suit every rider and every condition? Etc., etc. Road bikes have solutions that are already more than will ever be needed. If you get more it'll be due to more marketing dept meets gullible punter than stuff anyone actually needs. Years ago I think Bike Magazine ran a data logger on a one litre sports bike to find out just how much of its power and performance was used by a very good professional rider on the road. I can't recall all the details but recall that for something like over 90% of the time the typical power use was around 40bhp or less! You really think a road rider needs switchable power maps and other such gimmicks, let alone corner by corner settings? Look at something like Yamahas MT-07. That has more performance than the vast majority of

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 1:01 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


Translation. Dorna have called our bluff and we folded. Why? Certainly not because of any "development" opportunity whitewash. If you believe that then Valentino Rossi is really the Easter Bunny, lord Lucans mystery love child and Willy Wonka all rolled into one. Honda are staying because there's no way they don't want the brand exposure across the planet that MotoGP provides. It's all about the marketing and promotion folks, and that's all there is to it. This waffle is just their attempt to make their total reverse and climb down look a bit less of an embarrassment. They pushed too hard and made one dire threat too many and finally they've been stood up to. And not before time. Maybe now Dorna have finally caught on they'll actually start enforcing and making rules that look after MotoGP racing properly. I hope so.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 1:08 PM

MotoGP » Honda explains standard ECU agreement


In the meantime.... Honda get 2 seasons grace to employ all of those massive resources to develop their 2016 machine to have every possible thought and idea tried and tested, and to think outside the box to find workarounds to gain a small advantage here and there... Especially work arounds that will enable them to keep a secret or two. By 2016 the most likely outcome is that Honda will have a winning bike so not much will have changed. Except that Dorna are better equipped to try to keep Hondas resource advantage to a lot less than it is now and more freedom to make tech rule changes and restrictions.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 10:29 AM

MotoGP » Lorenzo: It feels like no traction control


@ Herewego Without the uber sophisticated TC and with a tyre with less outright grip than JL is used to.... Then instead of being in the Pit Box seeing just how much the TC was intervening to stop the bike swapping ends..... He'd have been sat on his ar$e after coming in from low orbit after 240 odd aggressive donkeys all kicked him up the derriere at once. JL THOUGHT it felt like there was no TC when in fact there was quite a lot. Which (as HRC cannot grasp) means the electronics were doing a hell of a lot more of the riding than he realised. It only FELT like no TC simply due to the much lower mechanical grip threshold of the tyre, so even with lots of TC the grip level was still way lower than the limit he expected to have.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 7:48 AM

MotoGP » Lorenzo: It feels like no traction control


@ HRC Regardless of electronics there is still a limit of mechanical grip. So if a rider consistently tries to exceed the available grip then a loss of drive is inevitable. The electronics are just managing the balance of power and grip so that JL is able to stay onboard without drama to compkain he hasnt got as much grip as he wants from the tyres. You're determined to make it look like you know what you're talking about, but what you are trying to prove simply doesnt stack up and you shoot yourself in the foot. Using JL comment and your own posts... means 1. the TC IS fantastic about seamlessly controlling the engine overwhelming the tyre so well he could not tell it was doing it until after the grip limit had been exceeded for some time (keeping him on the bike!) until he was over the mechanical grip limit..... OR... nope, thats it. The first one.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 1:23 PM

MotoGP » Smith explains lack of grip, 'Lorenzo will improve'


Wouldn't it be SO much better and SO much more interesting if the teams were UNABLE to record and download dozens of parameters to provide the data TO write electronic setup strategies to maximise tyre grip? If it was just down to rider feel, communication between rider and crew chief, and the Teams ability to translate verbal information on rider feel and feedback ... Wouldn't that mix it up track to track and make every quali and race much more exciting? Hang on..... Didn't they used to do it that way until just a few short years ago? Sensors and data... The bane of modern racing IMO.

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 11:45 AM

MotoGP » Smith explains lack of grip, 'Lorenzo will improve'


Makes sense. JL getting a lot less mechanical grip at Qatar and his high corner speed style needs lean angle and high grip. Smith sounding assured and confident in himself. Also seems like he is being methodical and working toward race pace and setup not one lap headline times. I dare say normal service for the full works teams will be resumed by Quali. Still it seems like the new tyres are causing more interest (at least till Factory Resources crunch all the numbers and code solutions) than the messy categories on track at least. Seeing as the track/tyre is the only and mechanical contact between the tech and the Tarmac it's no surprise that tyres are the biggest factor though. I said it before.... Change compound and it changes all the data solutions and strategies the electronics guys have sorted at a stroke. But the Factories have the resources to correct data fastest. Good luck Bradders. As has been said this might be your best chance of a really good result before the Fa

TalentFan

March 21, 2014 12:36 PM

MotoGP » Open ace Espargaro ponders front row, podium


Maybe Dorna are hoping and praying for an Open Class win. They should be. As if the Factories then demand a performance bike they can promptly be offered to agree to the spec software and join the fun with Ducati. Checkmate. Dorna gain instant control over software which is what they want and need. Once they have that then they have the ability to try and reduce the electronics to a level attainable by all teams ( I'd guess by limiting the inputs and outputs and the sensors, maybe the processing power/speed of the hardware too??). I reckon if Forward achieve what people were saying Ducati might be able to in Open Class, that Dorna will be quietly very pleased. There's nowhere near enough evidence to suggest till actually have a chance of really happening so far though.


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