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TalentFan

May 10, 2014 8:47 PM

MotoGP » Pirelli: No plans to make MotoGP tyre bid


@ throttlemeister I dont know where you're from... but here the sportsbike's days are numbered on the street due to draconian anti speed technology all over the place, rendering even non-sport bikes a very easy way to shred your licence. Also sport-touring tyres are now seen as more than grippy enough for even sportsbikes on the roads. Add in the market shift toward more all around useful and economical machines, and yiu can see tgat extreme street performance tyres arent likely to be necessary nor a high priority for a tyre mfr. Just like the bike factorys.... if a tyre mfr wants in with MotoGP its mainly for the market exposure for the brand. And right now positive publicity for MotoGP tyres is in short supply. Im betting an internal paddock directive has already been issued to stop all tyre b1tch1ng forthwith so they can attract Bridgestones replacement on board.

TalentFan

May 10, 2014 8:53 AM

MotoGP » Pirelli: No plans to make MotoGP tyre bid


Agree a tyre co is on a hiding to nothing. Also, bearing in mind that the rubber is the only medium between bike and track surface..... And MotoGP bikes make a stupidly excessive amount of power, which they then artificially rein in BUT TOTALLY MAXIMISE, ALL THE TIME for the avaikable grip with the electronics. That has to mean a ANY tyre that ANY Co made gets ragged 100%, for 100% of the time. So, no matter how great a tyre the Co makes, there,s ALWAYS going to be the electronics there beating the carp out of it. People get fed up of me going on about it... but its well past time that people caught on that the negative consequences of OTT electronics and power have much further reaching effects than "just" eroding the rider and crew skills and talents, and tilting the playing field badly. Any tyre co with any sense will see that getting positive marketing from MotoGP isnt happening (Dorna will probably address this by fining and penalising anyone in the paddock so no one moans

TalentFan

May 10, 2014 8:31 PM

MotoGP » Espargaro: Open ECU means podium sliding away


Actually KN, Especially given how technology makes what these guys do so much more accesskble to the fan/viewer.... I'd have to say that Road Racing like the Irish Roads and the TT eclipse BSB. To watch the TT riders do their thing makes anything else seem dull in comparison. If you want to watch something that delivers a real sensation of Speed, with true demonstrations of bravery, commitment and human skill / talent and real racing excitement, then it has to be the John McGuiness', Guy Martins & Robert Dunlops over the short circuit superstars.

TalentFan

May 09, 2014 7:59 AM

MotoGP » Espargaro: Open ECU means podium sliding away


.............. If everyone called for proper competition instead of fawning over the kid, then Dorna might just feel it has the support & need to get things done properly. Your attitude & those like you is a huge part of the problem. If people like you form the mass audience of GP's, then you'd better be happy with a non sporting pretence for good. You wont demand you get what GP is mis-sold to you as (proper real SPORT) - youll accept a poor substitute without complaint nor rejection of their product. Would you accept any other purchase that failed to provide what it claimed? No. You'd reject it, take your money and look elsewhere. Like I said. The "Realists" of this world empower Dorna to make vast sums while doing their job dreadfully and dishing up shoddy, misrepresented non-sport. So YOU are HELPING them to con you & everyone else by your posts supporting and encouraging others. Not smart Realist. Not smart at all. An ideal Dorna customer in fact.

TalentFan

May 09, 2014 7:46 AM

MotoGP » Espargaro: Open ECU means podium sliding away


@ nealio Good to see that there are those who can see that there are possibilities and methods a competent Series Organiser could employ to make Grand Prix a proper race series. Every time though I have put forward the idea that Direct Factory Teams as now should not be permitted..... there has been plenty of those insisting that Factory Teams are essential (even though why they believe that is based on shonky reasoning). @ Realist You do what you want. If you know its fake, but you're happy to pay to blithely watch something that claims to be sport when it is unsporting (I.e happy being conned & treated like a fool) thats your business. But... you want me to give it a rest. How about you do the same then, & cease your own promotion of MM as the best rider etc. that you post? If you know MM has mass unfair advantage then to promote his success as being MM is tacitly supporting a corrupt system and therefore obstructing change for the better. If everyone called for proper competi

TalentFan

May 10, 2014 9:01 AM
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MotoGP » Pirelli: No plans to make MotoGP tyre bid


......... (Dorna will probably address this by fining and penalising anyone in the paddock so no one moans about tyres, instead of addressing the root cause of most of the woes afflicting the series). MotoGP isnt a race series now anyway, just a pretence of one. So I wouldnt mind at all if no Mfr stepped up and took the gig. Perhaps then it'd force Dorna to actually do the inevitably necessary before its too late...... get rid of the OTT electronics, and make them tune their motors for sensible, usable power levels that the rider controls fully. Then the tyre management is back to the rider to optimise and not for the software and OTT surfeit of power to shred. Then you'd also give the tyre supplier a fightjng chance, and riders / teams far less reason / excuse to moan about the rubber anyway. Chances are then that Bridgestone wouldnt be walking away either.

TalentFan

May 10, 2014 9:11 AM

MotoGP » Pirelli: No plans to make MotoGP tyre bid


....... I might add that if the MotoGP audience had enough sense to demand a return to proper racing instead of accepting the circus show, then consumer power would force Dorna to sort it out anyway. Pity is that most fans now seem to be partisan rider supporters (like soccer fan mentality) so only care if their (undoubtedly one of the front runners) guy is successful, rather than caring if the contest is a valid one. We'll never get quality racing, when we are prepared to accept 3rd rate rubbish for your dollar. Think about it before just mouthing off and disagreeing eh?

TalentFan

May 09, 2014 10:10 PM

MotoGP » Espargaro: Open ECU means podium sliding away


Realist
Nope. Motorcycle racing has always been the most obvious and clear demonstration of an individuals skill, talent, application and guts in motorsport. And those human skills & qualities that make Grand Prix special are being wasted, and eroded, and poorly traded for some software and laptops and terabytes of data. And instead of wishing to retain competition and all that makes bike racing unique, people like you are happy to support it being sold short, and replaced with a shoddy facsimile of the real thing. "Realist"? Don't make me laugh. You're among what is seemingly the short sighted & foolish majority who lack the ability to see you're willingly assisting in the destruction of genuine Motorcycle Racing Competition in GP's. You deserve rubbish as you accept rubbish. Problem is you're helping wreck it for us sorry few REAL fans of GP's. People like you are why real GP racing has been killed off for people like me.

TalentFan

May 10, 2014 8:15 PM

MotoGP » Espargaro: Open ECU means podium sliding away


KnowNothing: @ talentfan How do you feel about BSB?
I feel its a race series. Which makes it worth 100 of MotoGP. I rate it above WSBK as well, though when WSBK goes all EVO lets see whats what. I guess what V4Poweeeer said has validity.... that MotoGP is for the Mfrs, while maybe WSBK is for riders ( even more true of BSB). The fact that Honda won the Mfr war some time ago in MotoGP though really means that all pretensions toward racing are pretty tenuous. I am hoping that the falseness and contrived non-racing model that is MotoGP fails dismally - its way past time when fans should switch off in droves. If it succeeds then then the danger is itll bleed across and ruin all motorcycle racing series. It seems noone is bothered enough if anything is real or not any more, nor if there is any value in the activity. BSB isnt perfect. But its light years ahead of MotoGP.


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