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TalentFan

September 17, 2014 12:16 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP weight changes, software freeze


.... That could STILL only work with strict curtailing of Data aquisition, data solutions & Rider Aids. Watch Suzuki (again) & Aprilia fall on their swords trying - then you'll see ample proof (IF Suzuki still don't see what is obvious and change their mind - smartest move for them ever if they do). As it is, Honda & Yamaha have unassailable leads in data and data solutions. Allowed to collect and crunch data and solutions, and then upload strategies for Rider Aids into the bikes ECU, which has sufficient power and I/O's to run whats needed... then no-one is going to get close. not unless and until rein in the tech to prevent H & Y from dominating through systems no-one else will attain - the Suzuki's and Aprilia's will get fed up and bail, leaving the Kings of The Hill untouched. The ONLY way to introduce Racing back into MotoGP is to remove the use of electronic data & solutions. Nothing else will work. Its all gone too far (unless fans are happy to accept that its a technolog

TalentFan

September 17, 2014 12:15 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP weight changes, software freeze


SasquatchBob: A grid full of teams without the budget or resources to develop cutting edge technology
If the tech is so advanced that it is replacing the rider, then isn't it OTT and unsuitable for the the purpose of Racing anyway? Its not like a non-electronic bike with 210BHP isn't a proper handful for ANY rider.
it sounds exactly like club racing
. No it doesn't. This is GP's with the very best racers, on the very best international circuits, with much, MUCH better kit and budgets. It is certainly possible to have a great Racing Series. If not run alongside the factory stuff to make them look rubbish, the fledgling CRT's would have proved that - they only looked bad as they were new and woefully under-funded and under-developed next to Honda etc.
If anything, if you want a more level playing field (which you've said about 1000 times) MotoGP needs more factories, not less
That could STILL only work with

TalentFan

September 17, 2014 11:57 AM

MotoGP » MotoGP weight changes, software freeze


If we put what you say bluntly in translation SasquatchBob its this.... We should let Mfrs exploit Grand Prix fully. Dorna should be complicit with the Powerful Teams to see to it that those teams get what they want, at the expense of those with less money and power. Forget Sporting competition, just so long as they make it look good - we don't need Real, we'll accept well-presented fakery. Accept and celebrate the Champions they choose to permit to be successful, and deride all others for being unworthy, despite the fact they never were allowed a proper chance? Support the successful teams, and lambast the subjugated teams for being inferior - no matter that they never got a fair shake and were only allowed lesser materials. Yep, bend over and take it without complaint. In fact, pay for the privilege. In short, sit back and be happy that GP's are a virtual Dictatorship, the North Korea of Motorsport if you will. Sounds great put like that, doesn't it?

TalentFan

September 17, 2014 11:44 AM

MotoGP » MotoGP weight changes, software freeze


SasquatchBob: Did you really get up and type all that at 6 o clock in the morning?
Hey some of us have to go and do a days work y'know!
. A high proportion of the audience follow the characters as much as the racing. You think MotoGP would be anywhere near as popular as it is without people like Rossi. Without fans watching, there is no MotoGP.
Agreed. So why are the Riders being marginalised by the tech, and many struggle to finance their GP Ride? Fans aren't supporting any but the 'created' successful ones. With lousy predictable non-competitive events, how much decline will MotoGP see when Rossi retires (& if the fickle fans don't adopt MM as the new Messiah like is being 'engineered' now)? Don't forget Mfrs are fickle too. The moment GP's are not seen as successful marketing & promotion, the Factory's will pull the plug in a heartbeat anyway. They will not be concerned about what that means for GP's.

TalentFan

September 17, 2014 11:33 AM

MotoGP » MotoGP weight changes, software freeze


..... in fact (depending on their Business) being there with an unsuccessful grid-filler might even damage their business. So... IF the Factory Teams weren't in GP's... isn't it possible that GP's could be much better and much more successful without them? Indie Teams would all want relative parity... as without that there's no show, and being IN the Show is how they make their living. Sponsors would still want to be associated with the most successful... but with relative machine parity, that means The Best Riders. Riders would love it. They get to prove themselves against the best rivals on near-equal kit, AND they'd get well paid if they were good (see Sponsors above). Fans would love it - proper Racing with no one rider nor team being unfairly restricted, resulting in a genuine contest. So again... are you SURE that there would be no GP's without Factory's?

TalentFan

September 17, 2014 11:29 AM

MotoGP » MotoGP weight changes, software freeze


SasquatchBob: Yes, I know the manufacturers have a big say in what happens. There has to be some compromise though. If they don't get concessions, the series becomes worthless to them and they pull out. Without them, there's no MotoGP.
I can translate that as "let us cheat or we won't play", or "let me win or I'm taking my ball back". That there could be no Grand Prix racing without the Manufacturer Teams and support is a popular view..... one that seems to have become accepted as a fact, and no-one ever thinks to challenge it. But IS it a fact? I don't think it is. I reckon there's lot of Independent Race Teams who'd LOVE to be in MotoGP. Same for Sponsors. But they are inhibited or put off by the costs AND the fact that tthe Teams KNOW they won't be empowered to compete, and ergo any Sponsors KNOW they'll get a very poor amount of Airtime and Return on their investment - in fact (depending on their Business) being there with an unsuccessful grid-fille

TalentFan

September 17, 2014 8:12 AM

MotoGP » Eugene Laverty confirms MotoGP move


If we want an EL on a non factory bike ( or a Hayden, a Petrucci etc) to have a fair shot at the top 4..... Then you have to MAKE the top 4 give up their huge technical advantages, NOT try and upgrade the other bikes. That can NEVER work as the Factory Teams hold all the resource cards, as well as controlling many elements on their customer teams bikes! A curtailing of technology to inhibit the ability of the Factory Teams to employ tech and resources to control their position at the head of the pack is the only thing that can be effective. Fans need to realise this. Then we still have the problem that Dorna lacks the spine to actually stand up to the Mfrs and implement proper reform.

TalentFan

September 17, 2014 8:03 AM

MotoGP » Eugene Laverty confirms MotoGP move


V4Poweeeer: People have been bemoaning the performance of the proddy bikes. However in my mind they maybe even slower next season with a more powerful engine unless this 2014 spec engine has a very friendly power delivery or there is a massive update for the spec ecu and software next season.
Bigger updates and complexity are just what the Factory's WANT. it plays straight to their resource strengths and gives them more power and control in MotoGP. IMO reform is what's needed. Cut out all the data, simplify not upgrade the ECU's. Get back to the idea CRT started that shook the Factory's. Make the rider the important part again, get some parity this way, as it's the only way it has a chance. Less is assuredly more.


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