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TalentFan

July 30, 2014 3:49 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


In any case RSMick.... Honda have been the driving force behind most of the changes that have escalated the costs of competing in MotoGP. The sheer complexity and associated costs of optimising the machines under the current rules set is largely HRC's doing (either directly through proposing and lobbying for, or by strongly resisting simpler solutions to restrict ultimate performance like having a much lower rev limit, removal of TC etc. - even useless Dorna have put forward such things). All this says that Honda WANT MotoGP to be damned expensive and costly to develop optimised solutions for ultimate speed..... which means they are happy to spend bigger than anyone else, as it means they can spend to gain advantage that others cannot hope to match. And so it has proved.

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 7:15 AM

WSBK » Suzuki keen to retain Lowes, Laverty for 2015


For sure as RSMick points out Sportsbikes are a dying breed. However that doesnt have to mean that a Superbike series is definitely doomed. As usual theres the assumption that its the Superbike that is the Product ( so if they arent selling then neither can a race series that uses them ). For 1 thing (for mfrs & sponsors) its their Brand they are promoting, not necessarily the model. But the main thing is to recognise and nurture the Real Product. If Dorna want a successful WSBK series then they MUST provide Real, Entertaining, honest RACING. Despite its uber everything MotoGP is failing massively in its true core Product also. If Motorcycle Racing is to survive as a World Series with a global TV audience then it cannot depend purely on its value as a sales & marketing vehicle to the Mfrs. It needs to focus on its own Product, RACING. Then there'll be good rides available to the Eugene's of this world. Dorna have been dismal at managing Motorcycle Racing so far.

TalentFan

July 30, 2014 8:47 PM

WSBK » Suzuki keen to retain Lowes, Laverty for 2015


EL should aim for another top team spot in WSBK over a team hopelessly disadvantaged in MotoGP I reckon. MotoGP is never going to offer EL a competitive opportunity. Just like the 18 or so riders doing little more than providing some track space filling already. IMO no rider good enough to warrant any MotoGP grid spot on merit should actually take a ride there. Not until Dorna provide an environment where those riders get a genuine chance to race for wins with genuinely competitive equipment. MotoGP is a career killer for most who enter, and not necessarily because the rider wasn't good enough. EL should steer clear.

TalentFan

July 30, 2014 8:12 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


@ RSMick Its great how you try to infer that so many others are wrong and cannot prove that Honda spend a lot more than anyone else to ensure their dominance, despite all the supporting evidence that indeed they do. And yet..... you offer not a single shred of evidence or proof to support your suggestion that Honda isnt the big spender in MotoGP. If my post is waffle, then yours are what? I think the word is "biased".

TalentFan

July 30, 2014 3:37 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


RSMick:
TalentFan: Just what MotoGP needs.... the richest team to have even more money. .
How do you know Repsol Honda are the richest team?
Oh come on. I know that you're going to disagree in principle with every comment I make... but surely even you aren't going to suggest that Honda don't have vastly greater resources than any other in MotoGP? Quite apart from the additional resources the Factory can provide over and above the HRC effort, there's basic tangible things like the team having what, 10 data guys in the pit? Then there's the testing, the new parts such as chassis etc. etc. etc. that Honda crank out in greater numbers far, far faster than anyone else. There are literally dozens of other examples that could be quoted. So if an outsider can find (say) 50 indicators, then you can bet in reality thats just the tip of the iceberg. Basic observation of HRC activities & applied common sense says they have the most by far

TalentFan

July 30, 2014 3:25 PM

MotoGP » Schwantz urges early Suzuki MotoGP debut


Yep, hurry up Suzuki. Then you can demonstrate just what I expect.... That you're about to get your backsides very solidly kicked very publicly (again). What on earth were Hamamatsu thinking? With all the data and data solutions that the other teams (esp. Factory Honda) have in order to have rider aids and tweaks everywhere to maximise 20 stupid litres of fuel to carry their dwarfish pilots ever faster, Suzuki haven't a snowballs chance in hell of catching up. There's a much bigger chance that instead they'll be 'doing a Ducati' and struggling to fight with the satellite teams for the lower top ten spots... it could conceivably be worse than that. I have nothing against Suzuki btw. But you wouldn't need to be a mystic to foretell what's going to happen. The Suzook big bosses must have had a heavy night on the Saki when they decided re-entering MotoGP was a good idea. It'd be cheaper and just as effective for Suzuki to run an Ad Campaign saying that their rivals build better mot

TalentFan

July 30, 2014 9:03 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


RSMick:
TalentFan: HRC visibly have masses of electronics staff in the pit,
Haha never let up, there are actually 4, 2 poached from Yamaha in 2011. Now look at the Kawasaki WSB pit, whose electronics are far more advanced that what Honda Motogp have with more rider aids. However their coding engineers won't be as good.
Still misdirecting eh Mick? Kawasaki arent in MotoGP as a factory. So what they spend in WSBK has no relevance to what Honda spends in MotoGP now does it. Honda dominates MotoGP directly & indirectly through BUDGET. All your twisting and turning like an eel does not change that.

TalentFan

July 30, 2014 9:10 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


RSMick: Well you could try this: cyclenews.coverleaf.com/cyclenews/20120626?#pg34 or maybe this: motorcyclenews.com/mcn/sport/sportresults/motogp/2012/april/apr1312-budget-cap-impossible-to-police/ That took 2 mins. but please counteract
Ive not had the chance to read them, but I dont really have to. You consider journalistic articles to be PROOF of something Mick? Youd be the first to say the same thing if the shoe was kn tbe other foot. The only thing reliable about you, is your never-ending effort to put a positive spin on anything Honda related.

TalentFan

July 30, 2014 8:22 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


V4Poweeeer: Has anyone ever thought that maybe Honda is better at building motorcycles regardless of budget???
Be serious. Even with Hondas economies of scale with road bikes they couldnt develop new models much cheaper than their rivals, so to suggest they could do so in MotoGP is simply daft. Elecronics and data solutions rules MotoGP now (just as Honda pushed for). HRC visibly have masses of electronics staff in the pit, but its very likely that behjnd the scenes there is hjndreds of man hours and computer time being racked up processing data many times faster and in more detail than any other team. Thats how they have the best rider aids setup in the shortest possible time frame. That costs money. Lots of money.


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