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TalentFan

September 25, 2014 7:42 AM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


Realist:
TalentFan: Want to solve all the who is best rows? Simple - give em all a level playing field and let em duke it out as it should be.
Ummm, didn't we already do that in Moto2 and in 125cc? He didn't bring the title home in any season. Of course now you (or another Crash.net) member will say that so-&-so had a better this and a better that rather than saying so-&-so is just a better rider. Espargaro, Marquez, Bradl, Luthi, Kallio, Rabat, etc. ALL came ahead of Smith.
If the rider contest is done n dusted in the lower classes, then why have a top class at all then? Sorry Realist but that's a stupid comment.

TalentFan

September 24, 2014 9:16 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


SuperSick58: @talentfan..............I still stick by my comments that BS is not capable of winning a race, he doesn't have the talent. You could put him on MM's bike and he would still finish behind more talented riders at which he'll provide a list of excuses for not winning....
You may well be right. The pity of it is that it's unlikely BS will ever get a package capable of winning to either prove or disprove your opinion. So (if I chose to) I would always have the justifiable comeback that we cannot be certain of any riders true position in the GP pecking order while there is big gaps and factories in control of Satellite rivals level of competitiveness. Want to solve all the who is best rows? Simple - give em all a level playing field and let em duke it out as it should be.

TalentFan

September 24, 2014 5:18 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


...... but I'd expect fans to have a lot more concern for the welfare of the sport... I guess its a sign of the times - it requires far less effort for an individual to just decide to support the guy who (by whatever means) is successful. Then, that 'fan' can enhance his easy enjoyment of 'his' riders successes, and get his jollies by taking the mickey out of those riders who aren't chosen to succeed. Nice n easy, in the disposable age eh?

TalentFan

September 24, 2014 5:03 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


cokerel: In all honesty I'd suggest you take a break from Motogp Talentfan as it seems to create more stress than enjoyment for you. It may well be a very small injustice in a world full of HUGE injustice. I get frustrated and slightly emotional when i switch on the news and see whats going on around the world on a daily basis. I'm not going to get too stressed about a Motogp rider who earns more in a year than i will in a lifetime. I'm pretty sure they don't wind themselves up about it half as much as you do. Especially when there bank statement falls through the letterbox.
TBH cokerel, I don't get stressed about MotoGP really. And your point about the paycheque taking the sting out of being a grid-filler is a good one. I think the sheer obtuse, closed-mindedness, and the total apathy of the so-called fan toward the corruption of their sport that is undoubtedly more frustrating. I expect big corps to run roughshod over whatever stands in their way, but I'd e

TalentFan

September 24, 2014 2:08 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


Pakundo: i think crutchlows rookie year was on the 800cc not these 1000cc that Pol is on. I think Pol has done a solid job,,but thats all.I cant remember any stand out performences that he's done this year.
See cokerel? Even though we have discussed this in this very thread... fans STILL cannot see that Pol might be doing standout performances, but as these don't feature in the top 4, then they are dismissed as nothing special. Pakundo there has managed to completely ignore that he can't fairly judge PE's performance, as his package is inferior to the Factory stuff by an unknown value. As a rookie, and against his Satellite mounted opposition (a more fair yardstick if still not an accurate one) then Pol IS producing standout performances. But fans cannot see the wood for the trees. It should not BE complicated - it should be proper racing, not this convoluted, contrived mess.

TalentFan

September 24, 2014 3:52 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


...... All it takes is the desire for GP's to be a proper, fair. competitive racing series. Fans communicate that, and they might get it. Instead Fans DEFEND the situation! In god's name, why? Accept dross, and a fake when you're paying to get the genuine article, and for sure dross is what you'll get.

TalentFan

September 24, 2014 3:48 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


SasquatchBob: For example "Although it's hard to say for sure with all the PR spin and disparity in machinery, in my opinion Pol seems to be riding very well in this, his rookie year on under-powered and under-developed machinery. He shows quite a professional attitude in interviews too and seems like a nice guy who'd probably be fun to have a beer with."
Actually, that's a good piece of work there Bob! I like it. Part of why I bang the drum so hard, is that even putting stuff in the most direct terms possible... it seems that I get the same old lame, pointless, ill-considered and regurgitated media-spin responses, defending a situation which is actually harming the riders they claim to support. Defending the indefensible, using tired old cliches, and failing to realise that both riders and fans could be enjoying something far, far better. All it takes is the desire for GP's to be a proper, fair. competitive racing series. Fans communicate that, and they mig

TalentFan

September 24, 2014 3:43 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


SasquatchBob: We will never be able to make a 100% comparison between any 2 riders in any form of motorcycle racing. There are just too many variables.
Far too many that shouldn't BE there. That's my point?
Trying to compare Pol and Marquez, Doohan and Stoner, Biaggi and Gibernau, Gary McCoy and Norick Abe, Anton Mang and Carl Fogerty or Rossi and Ago (you get the point) is nigh on impossible.
From different era's etc., yes. From the same RACE? Thats ridiculous, but thats the problem that should be fixed!
I'm just happy to watch them do what they do on a Sunday.
Then MotoGP should just be a demonstration where we can watch these guys show off their skills, and not pretend its a competition.

TalentFan

September 24, 2014 2:02 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro - Q&A


cokerel: Each to there own Talentfan. IMHO the cream usually rises to the top. If a riders good enough he will get the opportunity to cross swords with the top guys, but it's not an exact science and there will be occasion where some will be overlooked. At present, I don't see many obvious candidates to replace the likes of Marquez and Lorenzo and short of putting them all on production litre bikes, there is always going to be an imbalance due to funds available. Same as all sport. What do you suggest they do?
If a riders good enough to be in the pinnacle of GP's then he should AUTOMATICALLY get the chance to cross swords with the top guys - he's arrived already (only to find the very summit is denied by bad rules and governance). I suggest they put that right.


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