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TalentFan

October 10, 2014 3:30 PM

MotoGP » Marc VDS Honda MotoGP deal official


I'm happy for Scott, and wish him well. I still think his biggest worry in 2015 is how Scotts Factory Satellite Honda is going to get to the flag making the same power and pace, while pushing 76kgs with just 20L of juice. The heaviest Repsol (Marquez) is something like 17kg or 37.5lb lighter, while Pedro is about 25kg or 55lb lighter. I know the Honda isn't supposed to have any issues with fuel... but will it when it has an extra weight load equivalent to a sack of potatoes to push out of every corner, for every lap? At least it looks like we are going to actually find out. I hope for SR's sake that my fears are unfounded... but the Laws of Physics suggest they are not.

TalentFan

October 10, 2014 3:43 PM

MotoGP » Dovizioso: A great day


@ CliffEdge An entirely sensible and pragmatic, realistic assessment there, and one I can agree with. The only concern is that (given their failure to grasp the nettle with many backward steps so far) is whether or not Dorna can / will actually carry out the 'reduce the dependency on Honda' strategy. After all, it is Dorna who lost control, made a hash of it and enabled Honda to get into such a position of power that they could hold MotoGP to ransom in the first place, right? It is though nice to get a sensible, considered and mature response for once that has shows independent thought, consideration & understanding of the issues facing MotoGP, for which I thank you.

TalentFan

October 10, 2014 6:33 PM

MotoGP » Dovizioso: A great day


Vilas, While you lay into Ducati for having unfair advantage, you don't even seem to be considering the advantages Honda and Yamaha have over everyone. Especially with the Testing restrictions, H&Y knew that, as they already HAD worked out a working chassis and much of their data solutions (not to mention a bought-in seamless gearbox) the chances of ANY team being able to close the performance gap to H&Y was NIL. I'm no fan of Dorna, but even they had to realise that without doing something that it would be inevitable that no new Mfrs would enter to fight H&Y, and current Mfrs and Teams would withdraw when they realised they were never going to be able to develop solutions to compete. As others have said... I don't think Dorna are favouring Ducati especially.. they are just desperately trying to find a way to hang onto all their demanding Mfr Teams, so we have this terrible technical rules MESS. Dorna have dug themselves a very big hole full of vipers, and now they are flailing ab

TalentFan

October 10, 2014 5:28 PM

MotoGP » Dovizioso: A great day


@ Vilas46 I think maybe you've got your whole Latin Temperament there all revved up, and have a bit of a Vendetta going on against Ducati, which is clouding your opinion? I don't think you can ever let it go and forgive Ducati, who you hold responsible for Rossi's terrible seasons there. For sure Ducati made mistakes, but also you ignore that Honda's influence on the rules and their already prepared solutions and fully sorted chassis gave Ducati a mountain to climb. Rossi himself has to accept some responsibility for his Ducati move. He forced Yamaha's hand, and lost. I also think that he believed and listened to his followers who'd massaged his Ego, & so VR was convinced that if CS could win on a Ducati, then he would be at least as successful. No-one forced Rossi to Ducati Vilas, and Vale's rough time there is not 100% their fault. Maybe its time you got over it?

TalentFan

October 10, 2014 5:39 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP to remove artificial grass, reconsider flag-to-flag


Flag-to-Flag works as it is IMO. Also, if they have an official 'Pit-to-Change Immediately' signal, all that will happen is a melee in Pit Lane with bikes all over the place in a soaking wet pit lane as everyone charges in at once (esp. if its in early laps), and some pressure on riders to push harder and harder on their in-lap so that they get onto pit lane ahead of a rival. Also, a forced 'Pit' would still mean that riders further downfield effectively get a slight advantage over the leader, as they will get more track mileage on suitable tyres, and more gauge from others as to the amount of grip available. It could cause way more problems than it solves, and I think the riders SHOULD have the responsibility to make the call - its a riders own benefit or loss then if they screw up. Restarts take loads of time and are a pain, and take away any chance of retaining an advantage won before pitting. They should IMO leave Flag-to-Flag as it is, as its the best compromise.

TalentFan

October 10, 2014 6:38 PM

MotoGP » Dovizioso: A great day


mrfill: Honda did threaten to pull out when standard software was mentioned. They decided that they needed motoGP more than motoGP needed them.
Yes. And for once Dorna managed to grow a pair and not back down, and instead Honda did (but only once they knew that the control software and ECU would be so powerful that they'd worked out they can still hold advantage). But... Dorna should have learned a valuable lesson there... that you're right, Honda do not want to have no presence in THE biggest shop window for promoting their brand and motorcycles (and WAY cheaper than F1 too). Dorna need to recognise that they have a valuable commodity in MotoGP as a global platform with a mass audience of potential consumers, and that selling out cheap to any Mfr bully tactics is only going to damage the value of that commodity.

TalentFan

October 10, 2014 5:00 PM

MotoGP » Dovizioso: A great day


....... IF Dorna now intend for 'Open' to achieve what they had in mind for CRT to do, then its IMO more flawed, as the very high level of the ECU & Software still plays into the hands of the Mfrs resources. As for 'if Honda pulled out'... then I confess I don't know what'd happen. Maybe Yamaha would go too (after all their range is diversifying into 'lifestyle' bikes as they realise that outright performance is no use on the street, and an MT-09 has more than enough go for 90% of punters in reality). But I suspect now it would be different to before when they left. I think with an emphasis on affordability and closer real compettion on track, that independent specialist teams, with Sponsors (keen for the airtime MotoGP supplies) would suddenly find motoGP a lot more attractive, as they'd have a better chance at getting more out of their presence. Right now I reckon that Honda & Yamaha's dominance scares off a heck of a lot who would otherwise consider MotoGP.

TalentFan

October 10, 2014 4:51 PM

MotoGP » Dovizioso: A great day


@ CliffEdge Agreed. I have made much the same comments about CRT being a positive step, and then Dorna (having made a positive step) then threw it all away as you say (I think Honda saw the danger to their strong position and took steps to nip it in the bud, and Dorna caved). CRT's biggest problem was that they got thrown in the deep end as brand new undeveloped concepts, against uber-expensive and fully-developed Factory machines, so of course they looked rubbish and slow, and this damaged their credibility in the eyes of the Fans, who instantly declared them not good enough (and played straight into the Mfr hands). As a concept to introduce fair, affordable and Dorna rather than MSMA controlled motorcycles, CRT was just the ticket. If stars like 'the Aliens' had been riding CRT's alongside everyone else, then the CRT story might have had a far different outcome. IF Dorna now intend for 'Open' to achieve what they had in mind for CRT to do, then its IMO more flawed, as the very

TalentFan

October 10, 2014 3:20 PM

MotoGP » No seamless downshifts for Yamaha


Anyway (as I posted on another thread)... its not like the technology is consistent, so really the bikes with ALL the best tech & solutions are just beating other bikes which have less (same old, same old, just with more expensive and higher tech)... Different Gearboxes Different engine specs Different Electronics Different Software Different Fuel Different Tyres Different Classes of Bikes Different Rules All in the same Event, at the same time, supposedly competing equally for the same goals. How on earth can anyone look at this list and then try and state with ANY credibility that this environment is going to foster proper Racing?


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