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TalentFan

April 03, 2014 10:58 PM

MotoGP » Espargaro: I could have stayed with leaders


(Sigh)... He did prove himself in the race. All the bikes in front of him were fully developed Factory class machines with established megastar pilots on them. Why do people.... supposedly knowledgeable fans... insist on expecting a guy on 2nd string kit with loads less resources and support to beat the Factory efforts? With his finishing spot AE proved himself about as well as was possible given the relative circumstances of he and those on the podium. I feel some people need to have head doctors rapping on their skulls and yelling HELLO! down their ear to check if anyone is home! Do they let the Remedial Class kids post on Crash? You have to wonder, you really do.

TalentFan

April 03, 2014 11:14 PM

MotoGP » Rain scuppers Ducati MotoGP test


Still finding it sad and a sorry reflection on intelligence that people manage to slag Ducati for being given a so called unfair advantage.... yet without any thoughts about how HRC & Yamaha Factory teams have had the advantage of skewing the series rules to Play to and Protect their huge resource and technical advantages for years! Talk about double standards! How can you berate one Mfr for this, yet have no problem for another to have got away with so much more, for so much longer? Is this bias? Or just plain stupidity? It makes no sense to anyone with a fully functioning brain and any sense of fair play. So why do we see so much of this kind of attitude?

TalentFan

April 04, 2014 5:32 PM

MotoGP » Espargaro: I could have stayed with leaders


I believe the difference in rider talent level in MotoGP is nothing like the gulf the results make it seem, and that most of the riders would do themselves credit on Factory Yam or HRC in todays MotoGP. The gulf is there due to huge disparity in equipment, support. Only a select few have both the freedom and full support, plus big advantages. Which is why the same guys and the same bikes will consistently fill the top 4 slots through 2014. My feeling is sympathy for the 18 guys without a fair chance, not with the 4 guys with every chance Hugo. Your man Hayden included.

TalentFan

April 04, 2014 5:02 PM

MotoGP » Rain scuppers Ducati MotoGP test


grantrd: Talent fan..... Have you heard some people think the moon landings were fake??? Maybe you should check that one out.... Like Giles said you talk in riddles and circles and reading your theories is like listening to a stuck record....
Yeah I heard about that. Youll be unsurprised to learn I'm one of those who thinks they probably were faked. But then I'm one of those who's happy to look at available information with an open mind and no agenda, and decide for myself what is most likely reality based on info. But then you're the same guy who thought my reading a 20-year old book about a dead guy would alter my opinion of todays Honda Motor Co, right? So, your logic has to be spot on reliable eh?

TalentFan

April 04, 2014 11:04 AM

MotoGP » Rain scuppers Ducati MotoGP test


Gilles: @talentfan, your talking in riddles man.... What conspiracy are Yamaha and Honda guilty of?
No wacky theory Gilles. All the info and evidence is easy to find and simple enough to make sense of. Simply put H & Y have been able to manipulate the MotoGP rules for years to make it possible for those with the most resources to be unbeatable. Then the test restrictions have ring fenced their solutions advantage. Then they also control and regulate what H & Y customer teams get so they can control their own supposed rivals. It's damn good business practice to be fair to H & Y. But all it does for MotoGP is eliminate proper racing and competition. Hence why Dorna is finally realising this and trying to get more teams freed up by open software and more able to compete on a more even standing. No conspiracy theory - just look at the situation and see it for what it is. I now await loads of disagrees and cries to shut up about it lol. But you did ask

TalentFan

April 04, 2014 7:26 AM

MotoGP » Rain scuppers Ducati MotoGP test


Realist:
TalentFan: Talk about double standards! How can you berate one Mfr for this, yet have no problem for another to have got away with so much more, for so much longer? Is this bias? Or just plain stupidity? It makes no sense to anyone with a fully functioning brain and any sense of fair play. So why do we see so much of this kind of attitude?
You can defend Ducati (..and lambast YFR and HRC) all you want, but Ducati is responsible for their issues. Not Yamaha, not HRC, not DORNA, not anybody. If they had worked on the bike instead of being stubborn and blaming riders for the better part of a decade, they'd have a more suitable and competitive bike. Those are the facts. That is the bottom line. Stubborn, foolish pride got them here.
I guess people just see what it is they want see. Pity thats not the same as what IS.

TalentFan

April 04, 2014 9:31 PM

MotoGP » Crutchlow, Dovizioso join Ducati test


Even if (IF) you are correct about NH, AB & BS if they got the full HRC bike (and as the Factory bike IS better even if it's mainly due to the electronic solutions, it's still Bette and better supported)...... I note you don't dispute that MM would be nowhere near the podium on Hayden's bike! Meaning we cannot know MM's true level against anyone without. Package as good as his from day 1. Which is basically everyone.... Maybe even Pedrosa doesn't get quite the same support - there is precedent set by Honda favouring one teammate over another.

TalentFan

April 04, 2014 5:14 PM

MotoGP » Crutchlow, Dovizioso join Ducati test


@ V4 Its not propaganda. Its a valid opinion that is very hard to disprove and discredit.. simply as it is based on available factual information and logical examination of MotoGP. If it was easy to debunk my opinion as absolute rubbish someone would have done it ages ago. Agree the race was a good un.... for Rossi and Marquez. Not really much better for e.g. Hayden though, saddled with a restricted bike with NO hopes of competing up front. Honda could easily prove their bike is best and its the bike that makes the difference. Put a Hayden, Bautista or a Smith on a Factory Repsol, & Marqez on Haydens bike and see who is happy and looks good right up front then (hint... it wouldnt be Marquez).

TalentFan

April 04, 2014 5:26 PM

MotoGP » Espargaro: I could have stayed with leaders


@ Hugo Hayden is a good rider... better than he gets credit for by many who use the same flawed idea of judging him against fellas with better kit. IMO the only guy who Hayden got showed up by was Stoner at Ducati... but theres no real shame in that cis CS did that to everyone. NH though was far from embarrassed by Dovi or by Valentino as teammates, and NH didnt get the support a lot of the time that his teammates have had over the years... not at Honda or Ducati. Given how well VR is going again once back on a Factory M1, it is perfectly sensible to say that Hayden could also do similarly with the same package... as if he could battle with Dovi n VR on a Duke, then why not on a Yamaha? Makes sense. But instead hes stuck on a deliberately uncompetitive and restricted Honda (compared to what Honda give themselves).

TalentFan

April 04, 2014 7:41 AM

MotoGP » Espargaro: I could have stayed with leaders


@ Hugo Ive done nothing I would dare call racing in the context of these guys, but then few have. In any case.. I never commented on whether AE said more than was wise... I said that on the kit he had at his disposal he has proved himself on it. Just like on CRT... he may have had the best CRT, but he got results on it that some wise old sages on here said could and would never happen when they were slagging CRT off non-stop. It is stupid to compare anyones performance directly against someone else on better kit. So assessing anyone from the outside in this manner in MotoGP is pointless - there is too many variables to muddy the waters. But... given he has a disadvantage against Factory, his performances can be said to have proved AE to be damned fast. If the bikes and teams were a LOT more equal than they are... then direct evaluation would be valid. But they are not.


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