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TalentFan

July 31, 2014 11:23 AM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


@ grantrd Thats the best you can do? Try to hurt my feelings? How about you come up with something that counters my opinion with something that holds water? You don't simply because you can't. @ RSMick Well, your posts make me laugh too. Its clear from some of your content that you have some bias and vested interest and an agenda that suits you, your business or your employers business in some way. No-one is likely to be as one-sided as you without a vested interest of some kind. Therefore your posts must be viewed as nothing more but media manipulation / propaganda. The only amazing thing is that anyone could fail to work that out about your posts. @ Yossarian. You're like a dumb happy dog - easy to please! That's what makes you a perfect MotoGP fan - Dorna love guys like you for this! Its easy for me to support my statements - just look at what actual racing competition there is in MotoGP with its 4-tier nonsense. That alone proves irrefutably that it is failing compl

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 11:41 AM
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MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


EDIT by CRASH.NET: Removed pointless sniping from a perfectly good conversation. Please don't ruin this thread. @ RSMick. It should be noted that you carefully ignored my post about the Honda seamless gearbox, and it being a proof of Honda's willingness to spend, spend, spend in MotoGP to buy advantage. Having a little trouble coming up with a counter for that, are you?

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 12:28 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


@ RSMick Now the single clutch seamless gearbox exists (and it exists purely to circumvent a rule trying to keep automated gearboxes out of motorcycle racing) then Dorna should do one of two things... 1. Remove the ban on dual clutch seamless. At least then a more affordable solution is available to private teams, or 2. Ban the single clutch seamless so they have to go back to changing gear manually (as the original rule intended, and this would be my preference as it means putting one more small piece under the riders skill-set instead of a computer). Whatever, the single clutch seamless is a development dead-end, as dual clutch does the job far easier and cheaper already - so mass adoption is never going to make it much cheaper to make, and the massive R&D cost is never going to be recouped through sufficient gearbox sales. This gearbox was an expensive work-around to enable honda to get around a rule that restricted them from gaining an expensive advantage. So they just spe

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 1:49 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


...... Whatever MotoGP is or is not, I am certain that it would not meet the criteria to satisfy any Definition of Sport. So it cannot honestly be called Racing. I genuinely believe that without introducing measures to get Real Racing back into MotoGP that its days are ultimately numbered - you can only get away with a sham Sport for so long. The problem for Mfrs is that for Sport & MotoGP to thrive and survive, that their technological gizmos will have to be culled, and the series return to relying on proper racing where the best man wins through skills and applied experience / talent. Which means they can't buy success like they can now. Unfortunately (as I have said before) the wants and needs of Factory's and the wants and needs of Sport are not at all compatible. Ultimately thats the Elephant In The Room that Dorna must ultimately face, or watch Grand Prix Racing wither and die.

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 1:48 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


@ RSMick I understand and appreciate innovation and development. I'm not trying to be awkward here. As I see it the big problem here is that Honda and the other Mfrs have developed motorcycles and their systems to a point where the result is not just superfluous to what motorcycle racing needs, but is in fact harming it. The point of Sport is human endeavour and the pitting of one against the other in a contest of skill. I know motorsport differs from bat & ball & athletics sports somewhat (due to the complexity of the tools the Sportsman uses in Motorcycle Racing)... but the core value and purpose of Sport still has to apply, or it becomes pointless. So... having a series where the tools and aids of (say) Marquez means that he has an insurmountable head start over (say) just about everyone else goes against everything Sport is supposed to be, and wrecks the whole point of doing it. Whatever MotoGP is or is not, I am certain that it would not meet the criteria to satisfy any Def

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 12:36 PM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


....... So they just spent more money to do it another way. Very clever and terrific engineering for sure... but its not made MotoGP a better race series which is the key point. No-one wanted nor asked Honda to go out and develop a seamless single clutch gearbox. In fact the dual -clutch restriction was introduced to discourage expensive gearboxes, not create a need for a much more expensive one! Honda chose to spend big to get one as it was a hugely costly loophole they found that could gain them advantage no-one else (till Factory Yam eventually caught up with their own) could hope to have. So if Dorna had the balls to ban the seamless box then Honda could only have Honda to blame for shelling out all that money to develop it. I'm not anti-Honda. My beef is with Dorna for letting any Mfr like Honda buy their way to utter domination and control like they have. Honda are the biggest and most powerful company in MotoGP, so it is natural that they will take the most advantage...

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 8:46 AM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


Dorna have survived. Doesnt mean that Motorcycle Racing under their custodianship will in future. Dorna have sold out their control to Mfrs. Mfrs are fickle & woukd drop Racing like a hot potato in a heartbeat if it no longer suits them. Racings future lies with its audience. So look after them. That means look after the core product if Racing, and the core interest that is tbe Riders contest. Dorna can have confidence it can hold fans if it looks after them. It cannot have confidence in the Mfrs to do the same. Dorna have been backing the wrong horses for far too long and for a poor return. The writing is on the wall. You dont need to be Richard Branson to see that.

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 11:26 AM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


......... Its easy for me to support my statements - just look at what actual racing competition there is in MotoGP with its 4-tier nonsense. The hopeless lack of competition and a level playing field throughout MotoGP alone proves irrefutably that it is failing completely as a Racing Series and a Sport. I want Racing repaired - to be what it should be. RSMick just wants MotoGP to remain 'Fixed' (in the worst sense of the term).

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 8:37 AM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


ProfX Telling it there like it is. Not a popular thing to say, but theres some hard truths to be faced. I also agree that RSMick tries too hard, and defends the indefensible far too much to be a credible and unbiased opinion. Everything seems loaded with Agenda. It seems the greater fanbase is easy to fool. But theyve been fooled for a long time. Slowly but surely fans are waking up to it. When enough do......

TalentFan

July 31, 2014 8:29 AM

MotoGP » Red Bull increases Honda backing


MotoGP is just a marketing tool to Honda. They are a business, not a sporting organisation. Dorna are a business. But their business IS the sport. Unless Dorna start protecting the sport by being strong and preventing the Mfrs from dominating through budget and technology...... Then one day there simply wont be any MotoGP or WSBK. The popularity and appeal to viewers and fans will diminish, circuits wont be able to afford to have the series, tv companies wont want to broadcast etc etc. Dorna needs to pull its finger out. Now.


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