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TalentFan

March 27, 2014 7:34 PM

MotoGP » Bridgestone: Positive debut for 2014 MotoGP tyres


TedG: I think Lorenzo crashed because one of his most effective weapons is to squirt out in front on the opening laps and create a buffer. The track conditions, new tire construction, cold tires, and over eagerness to get away were a matter of the stars just not lining up. And probably a bit of frustration knowing that his most trusted weapon (high corner speeds and lean angles) had been compromised.
Not just his most trusted weapon... its the ONLY weapon against a Repsol Honda which has more drive and acceleration. Jorge has been the most obvious and outstanding exponent of using the front end to compensate for less at the rear.... but all the non-Repsols will have to use it, blunted or not kf they want a prayer of sticking anywhere near the Factory Honda bikes.

TalentFan

March 27, 2014 4:10 PM

MotoGP » Redding: The target has changed…


The limited fuel tank is what bugs me in all this. If the bike didn't need to fuel save then you could say Honda did this as they knew what fuel was needed and built the tank accordingly. They have enough data to do this. So this suggests this is just one more cap on the potential, a built in limiter to differentiate an Open Customer bike from their Factory effort with all the toys. I am totally against putting out bikes designed to be uncompetitive as it ruins the whole point of lining up on the grid. As for comparing SR to MM? Pointless and unfair. People STILL ignore or grossly underestimate the Honda Factory advantage MM has had from day 1 where is is with the team with the biggest resources all dedicated to getting wins, while SR etc. get deliberately restricted by the same Factory. C'mon people. Wake up and smell the coffee.

TalentFan

March 26, 2014 11:00 AM

MotoGP » Lorenzo admits fault after falling from lead


@V4Poweeer No prob. I'm happy not to sit on the fence. I think the Factory bikes still have an advantage they will hold onto throughout 2014. I don't think the Open bikes will close the gap enough to be consistent threat. Satellite bikes are managed ultimately by what the Factory gives them and what they can do with the electronics, which is not as much as the Factory Teams can do. So while things might get more interesting in the mid to lower order... The pointy end is still really just 4 bikes. And the Hondas know the tyre grip limit may affect them near the same package wise as Yamaha... But Honda have a bit more on the thrust side with fuel cons and electronics.... HRC didn't push the rules toward needing huge resources to optimise for nothing. So HRC have the edge on drive & no defecit on front end. All together this says Repsol Honda dominate 2014 to me. We shall see.

TalentFan

March 26, 2014 7:51 AM

MotoGP » Lorenzo admits fault after falling from lead


@ V4Poweeeer My point was simply that the new front gives slightly less outright edge grip. So if course JL isnt going to be happy when the only thing riders now have to race with directly is the brakes and the front end..... And hes spent the last couple of seasons using that one tool better than anyone else and kept him and his bike package at the pointy end of the pointy end. The riders ability to inflence the outcome is super marginalised with all the electronics. Its now made them focus kn the one trick they have left. Bradl has had the same issues for ages and again in Qatar for example. I forsee a lot of front end crashes or processional races instead in 2014, and the HRCs running away overall as their package means they dont have to risk pushing the front quite as hard as anyone else

TalentFan

March 27, 2014 7:26 PM

MotoGP » Redding: The target has changed…


@ Moto89 What Matty said above pretty much. Theres other stuff I could add about equipment inequality and rules in Moto2 but it'd just stir up a pointless exchange I don't want to have. I'd add to Mattys post though that no one gets close to Marc.... on the very best package, and that what occurred in other classes does not mean thats the case in every class either. If and when Marc beats guys other than a team mate on the same bike with the same support.... that is MotoGP actually puts in place a rules set that gives the grid a fair go against him.... THEN I'll happily say hes the best. Till then he has had big advantages over 90% of the field since day 1 in MGP... so his results dont prove much about the lad. Which is why its a matter of opinion and there's plenty of scope to argue about it. If you and I raced and I had a much better bike and I beat you... would YOU feel that I won because I was better than you? Thought not.

TalentFan

March 27, 2014 3:50 PM

MotoGP » Bridgestone: Positive debut for 2014 MotoGP tyres


In short... Racers are going to Push the front end limits like hell. Whatever tyres they have, as long as electronics do the driving forward then riders will push the front end.... cos it's the only tool in the box they have. Get used to front end crashes as the norm.. MotoGP rules and tech is making racers push the fronts which has to mean a certain level of crashes as saving the front is 10x harder than the rear. Logic says those with the most efficient drive won't need to push the front quite as hard. So the Repsol pair can afford not to stick their necks out. Anyone else wanting to try to make up for not having as much drive as the Repsols either has to accept they are beat.... Or stick their necks out by hammering the front end 100% everywhere to try to make every 10th. Satellite guys in theory like SB, AB, BS, PE as well as the Ducatis should be crashing by losing the front the most in 2014 I reckon.

TalentFan

March 27, 2014 4:29 PM

MotoGP » Lorenzo admits fault after falling from lead


It's not necesarrily that HRC have more power. They all have way more than can actually be fully exploited. So it's how they manage that power and control it that is key. Why do you think HRC have been so he'll bent on trying to derail a common software and continue to stick with their ow and accept the 20L etc? It's because they know that their power control management is better than anyone else's. If they have an advantage on drive and their riders can do as well or nigh on as well as rivals on braking and corner entry then they know they will win the most and consistency takes titles and keeps them at the front getting lots of lovely positive marketing and brand awareness. Anyone else has to risk crashing by losing the front more than their guys have to in order to compete with Hondas extra drive. I bet right now that Reps duo have less front end crashes than anyone else in 2014. And the electronics is why (just indirectly).

TalentFan

March 27, 2014 3:43 PM

MotoGP » Bridgestone: Positive debut for 2014 MotoGP tyres


As RossL says. It's not the tyres as such. If you push hard enough or too hard for the conditions you'll always be able to overcome mechanical grip. It's the ultimate limiting factor. The electronics make sure you get as much drive as you are going to get while managing spin and wheelie with TC etc. so that's taking care of the rear wheel pretty much and the rider cannot use the rear and the power to make any more time than the electronics and the mech grip combo gives him. So all they can push to make time using their rider direct input is the front end. Braking and turn in combos with ultimate entry speed up to the apex if a corner and when they get back into the throttle.... Is the only area riders have to compete with and use to try and make time on rivals. So if a racer can't use the power to go any faster he will try to force it with braking later and harder, and pitching into turns harder while trying to both shed speed in less time and carry more speed into the turn.

TalentFan

March 26, 2014 11:07 AM

MotoGP » Dovizioso 'happy' as Ducati halves the gap


@ Samas You may well be right that the Yamaha Movistar Team have a race winning bike. The problem I think though is that there is only one championship winning bike in the field. The rules may be slowly changing but right now they still favour one team.... The ones with Repsol on the fairing. I said it was a done deal at the end of 2013. I still believe this will be what pans out.

TalentFan

March 25, 2014 9:49 PM

MotoGP » Qatar winner Marquez wants more Rossi battles


Bottom line? If the Yamahas cannit quite match tge the Hondas electronics and drive going forwards on the power..... And the new front tyres mechanical grip limits mean JL cannot employ his high return, but very high risk strategy of pushing the front on braking, turn-in, corner entry speed, and mid-corner apex speed until back on the throttle (at which point the risk if losing the front drops dramatically)....... Then Lorenzo is screwed. There isnt any tools left in a very bare locker for him to use. Electronic control and intervention basically eliminates the throttle as a tool to make time, so if youre bike ain't quite as quick... all you have is the front end and hiw hard you dare risk. Just ask JL, AB, SB, BS, YH....


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