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Tetley

November 03, 2014 10:57 PM
Last Edited 47 days ago

WSBK » Jonathan Rea to Kawasaki WSBK in 2015


Has Johnny left dumping that fickle Honda too late ? Are his best years behind him ? Has Sykes got too complacent and expected everyone to bow to his Championship Majesty ? IMHO I reckon the change will give Johnny new impetus and drive to get the results which the Honda denied him. However with his long-time crew chief Chris Pyke departing to pastures new, JayRea will have to forge a new working relationship with a new chief and team, which is easier to say than do. As for Tom, he's learned some tough truths this season, and maybe they will spur him on to be the gritty never-give-up rider he was in 2013. We won't know the answers until next year, but it is going to be fascinating watching how it all pans out.

Tetley

October 29, 2014 7:35 PM

MotoGP » Rossi: Mistake to leave Yamaha over No.1 status


Brain: Tell me exactly, what is the "worth" of former world championships , when you are planning the future of your race team.
When you are planning the future of your race team, the first thing you must consider is the cost, and where the money comes from. The sources are your own factory racing budget, and what you can attract as sponsorship. Sponsors will want to run the highest profile rider, the one who will get the most media coverage. And that is VR46 and his age doesn't matter. He will still be a huge attraction at 38, 40 years old and beyond because of his 9 WCs. AND, the major sponsors who VR attracts are the ones who enable Yam to bring forward major developments. Therefore VR's mere presence is advantageous to the team's finances and race prospects. Forget 5 years, 13 years or whatever, VR is ahead of JLo THIS year and is still improving race by race.

Tetley

October 29, 2014 5:32 PM

MotoGP » Rossi: Mistake to leave Yamaha over No.1 status


Yearby23: The only reason Movistar are sponsoring Yamaha is because they bought rights to televise GP in Spain. It has nothing to do with Rossi bringing Movistar in
OK, so Movistar bought the rights to televise GP in Spain. And then they decided they would like to be title sponsor for a team. And what do you suppose was the major reason they chose Yamaha? It's plain for all to see that the big attraction for them was the highest profile rider MotoGP has ever known- a rider who knows the PR game inside-out- and who would have their livery on the front and back pages of all the bike mags, and most of the Spanish and Italian Daily papers. Nothing to do with Rossi ? Think again, Sherlock.

Tetley

October 29, 2014 6:52 PM

MotoGP » Rossi: Mistake to leave Yamaha over No.1 status


Yearby23: He's 8 years older than Jorge....
That's not necessarily a bad thing- VR is in the ascendency again and is currently ahead of JLo in the championship
9 WC to 4 WC...so what.
So 9 WC's are worth more than twice as much as 4 WCs. Only a twerp would dismiss 5 WCs so casually.
And in terms of PR skills Jorge's pretty good with them also.
Sure, JLo can suck a lollipop, but when VR left Yam, so did the big sponsors. They know the value of good PR skills and who has them.
And he's not a spoilt kid,
Didn't you read the recent reports, when JLo has thrown tantrums in the pits when things didn't go his way?
stop living in 2006.
You want to trade witticisms ? 2006 ? Weren't you still in short pants on a tricycle back then ? ( Smiley Face )

Tetley

October 29, 2014 5:41 PM

MotoGP » Rossi: Mistake to leave Yamaha over No.1 status


Brain: Its not odd that the number 1 rider get first dibs. Yamaha can say they dont have a number 1 and number 2, but lets put it this way. If they passed a rule starting next year that factories could only field one rider, Yamaha's factory rider would be Lorenzo.
There's no logic to your "If" scenario. VR46 has more WC's, is currently ahead of JLo in the Championship, has far better PR and promotional skills, and doesn't behave like a spoilt kid in the pits when things haven't gone his way. VR would always be the rider of choice if your "If" was to play out.

Tetley

October 30, 2014 11:51 AM

MotoGP » Rossi: Mistake to leave Yamaha over No.1 status


TrueFan:
TedG: Anyone would have a problem with cutting their salary and giving it to the new guy. Especially after a huge number of successes,bringing in the most sponsors, and being the most popular by far.
Interesting topic, Ted. The issue for VR with Yamaha in 2011, was equal treatment with Lorenzo. no doubt they wanted to keep both riders. .
It's a game with high stakes. When Vale and Yam were negotiating, I'm sure VR was remembering how Honda undervalued him, how Honda said it was the bike not the rider, how Honda said they would destroy VR if he left. We all know how that ended. I'm sure VR had deja vu when Yam tried to cut his pay and his No 1 status. What followed was a stand-off, neither Yam nor VR would back down, and they split. Ironically, Duc proved what Honda couldn't- even the best rider can't win if the bike is no good
Lorenzo did the right thing
True. JLo was smart to avoid the him-or-me scene

Tetley

October 29, 2014 3:36 PM
Last Edited 51 days ago

MotoGP » Rossi: Mistake to leave Yamaha over No.1 status


FatAlfie: The wall was put in place at the insistence of the tyre manufacturers, who didn't want sensitive data being passed from one rider's team to the other.
I never could, and never will understand how a "wall" or more accurately a "temporary movable screen" could stop any significant data flow. The two "sides" use the same computer systems which undoubtably are linked in some way. The condition of each "sides" tyres could be seen by everyone when the bikes were on the apron and when they were going in and out of the pitbox. The "screen" could not effectively stop each "side" eavesdropping and listening what the other was saying if they really wanted to . And in the tight confines of a MotoGP pit, the people carrying used tyres to the storage area were bound to cross paths and see how the other side's rubber had worn. I can't help thinking the effectiveness of the "wall" was exaggerated and a PR stunt to big-up VR and JLo's rivalry for media benefit

Tetley

October 29, 2014 7:18 PM

MotoGP » Rossi: Mistake to leave Yamaha over No.1 status


Yearby23: Tetley...I'm not dismissing 9 WC's... there's an 8 year age gap and a 5 WC gap...are you going to go fully out of your way to have a stab at Jorge? .
No mate, I'm not having a bash at JLo- he's a great rider. I am responding to the "IF" scenario which states as fact that if Yam had to choose between VR and JLo, they would keep JLo. I disagree that would be their choice and made I comparisons on the merits of the two. Yes, in 2006 there was some breathtaking racing in the 250 class and some of my most vivid memories were watching a teenage Vale in his 125 years. Thrilling stuff ! If I could find DVDs of Vale's 125 and 250 years I'd certainly shell out the coinage. There's posters on here who have never seen those races, and they might change their opinions if they did.


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