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Tetley

November 02, 2015 5:00 PM

MotoGP » Honda: Data shows Rossi 'kick' on Marquez


Painless: Have a look at the helicopter view. youtube.com/watch?v=VDsosN6vtJk Running out of track? There is at least 1.5 metres of track to the left when Marquez falls off.
Excellent observation. It shows that VR had passed MM and therefore could ride whatever part of the track he chose. MM was behind VR and had the choice of staying there or trying to re-pass. He chose to go up the outside of VR, lunged into him, hit him with his helmet and fell off while there was still lots of space to his outside. There was room for MM to fall off and slide on the track so at no time did VR push MM off track.

Tetley

November 02, 2015 2:43 PM

MotoGP » Honda: Data shows Rossi 'kick' on Marquez


ayan.art: the brake guard only guards from crashes not from somebody deliberate hitting it. .
Not so. The brake guards were introduced after a number of incidents when bikes collided and the brake lever was accidentally applied, notably when during a start-line dash someone slowed, Capirossi ran into them causing his brake lever to touch them, and Capi was somersalted down the track. Also It is virtually impossible at any speed for a heavily booted foot to get round the brake guard in a split second without moving or damaging or leaving a mark on the guard or the lever and without getting stuck. Racing boots have armour and limited movement to make them resistant to twisting and turning. They also have bulky toe-sliders which would make it inconceivable to do what you are claiming.

Tetley

November 02, 2015 1:52 PM

MotoGP » Honda: Data shows Rossi 'kick' on Marquez


Shuhei “VR intentionally pushed MM towards the outside of the track, which is out of the rules. The data from MM's bike shows that he was picking up the bike to avoid contact, his front brake lever suddenly received an impact . this was a result of VR's kick. The data acquisition from MM's bike is available if anybody from Dorna, the FIM or media want to check.” “Pushed" implies contact. There was no contact until MM dipped and hit VR with his helmet. “which is out of the Rules “ It is only against the rules if caused by contact. “was picking up the bike trying to avoid contact with Valentino, his front brake lever suddenly received an impact “ Shuhei conveniently omits to mention that between those two actions, MM dipped towards VR and hit him with his helmet. “a result of Rossi's kick” RD say there was no evidence of a kick. One week after the incident is plenty of time to “doctor” the data. It can only be relied upon if provided immediately after the race.

Tetley

October 31, 2015 5:28 PM

MotoGP » Valentino Rossi appeals Sepang penalty


geoffrey.spears.52: Rossi hasn't categorically made a statement to his fans that what he did was wrong and deserving of punishme. Appealing the penalty is the same as saying: "I don't believe I did anything wrong to deserve a penalty" Marc's front folded pretty hard to have not had the front braked lever pulled. Take a look at a pic of a brake lever guard and you'll see how much access there is from the top - it's designed to protect against side or front impacts when upright. When leaned over, it'd be easy to depress it from the top.
Britney- you're making it up as you go along. Rossi has admitted to the whole wide world that he ran MM wide. He is not appealing the imposition of the penalty, but the severity of it. And you claim that in a split second VR's leg or boot was able to find its way around MM brake guard ? Without marking or moving the brake guard ? Don't be ridiculous.

Tetley

November 01, 2015 11:05 AM

MotoGP » Valentino Rossi appeals Sepang penalty


Why are so many posters still arguing about who did what, and why and to whom ? All that was fully aired many threads ago. The topic of this thread is about VR appealing to the CAS, but few posters are actually debating that step in the process. The Rules of the sport are that VR has the option of seeking independant opinion and that is what he is doing . With the World Championship crown probably depending on the outcome it is the correct thing to do, and hopefully it will draw a line under the whole dispute.

Tetley

November 01, 2015 3:49 PM

MotoGP » Valentino Rossi appeals Sepang penalty


mrfill: Do you really think a line will be drawn and everything will be back to normal? I suspect, regardless of the outcome, this one will drone on for ever...
I agree with your suspicions. I am hopeful that a line will be drawn and a sensible unbiased independant conclusion will be achieved, but I don't really expect it to ever fade from memory.

Tetley

October 31, 2015 5:08 PM

MotoGP » Valentino Rossi appeals Sepang penalty


TrueFan:
AyrtonSenna: This yellow cult must be nipped in the bud. It is becoming isis like.
I must say that I strongly disagree, @AyrtonSenna. There's no "becoming" involved now. That ship sailed long ago. This cult IS as deluded as the ISIS fruitloops. As to "ISIS like", well, they're just as extreme, but arguably even more petty. However, they haven't stooped to beheadings yet,
What sort of cretin thinks beheadings are petty ? What sort of cretin likens any GP racer to a cult who performs mass murder ? What sort of a cretin likens any GP rider to a cult which rapes and then murders women? That is a disgusting comparison. Any intelligent person categorically will NOT find a scrap of likeness. Any you find will be purely in your own sick head.

Tetley

October 31, 2015 4:50 PM

MotoGP » Valentino Rossi appeals Sepang penalty


geoffrey.spears.52:
Tetley: IMHO, because they knew and had stated that MM was the root of the problem which provoked the incident, they should have waived VR’s arbitrary penalty and given a severe warning to both.
Sounds like you'd be fine with MM deliberately taking Rossi to the edge of the track
Marquez had already done this many times with many riders. Thay all have.
MM has clearly been provoked by Rossi's unfounded accusations of interference.
Only MM's blind followers say they were "unfounded".
Niccolo Canepa was "provoked" by another riding annoying him and he deliberately crashed him
The succint difference is in the word "deliberately". It was MM'slunge into VR which made him crash.


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