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Tetley

March 11, 2014 12:33 PM

MotoGP » Ducati 'not happy' with Factory 2 development


Official says "The official reason for the Factory 2 amendment being tabled is that the other Open teams do not have the capability to use the latest, major software update. This update appears inspired by Ducati's Factory software system - all manufacturers can contribute to Open software development and Ducati's complete switch to the class means they have little reason to hold anything back. However, since Dorna's Magneti Marelli software must be shared by six different MotoGP machines, it will never be exactly the same as Factory electronics, optimised for a single engine/chassis." Simple solution then. Give all Open Teams both the "old" and the "new" Marelli systems but allow only the original Marelli system to be used in races until season mid-point. This will allow all Open teams develop the new, improved system to suit their needs during the first half of the season, and give them a fair racing option for the rest of the season..

Tetley

March 11, 2014 4:05 PM
Last Edited 134 days ago

MotoGP » Ducati 'not happy' with Factory 2 development


Garcia “Tetley, my question is what is the point of a control ECU if it's going to be as sophisticated and expensive as the factory ones?"
A Control ECU will not be as expensive as a factory item as it won't have the myriads of criteria and Dorrna don't charge the Open teams for it anyway. So, as we're agreed on the "old" system for the first half of the season, the question centres around the second half of the season. It's true that some teams won't have the budget to fully exploit the "enhanced" system, but there will always be the "haves" and "have nots". Some have big budgets, some operate on a shoestring. We can't alter that. What CAN be done is expand or reduce the capabilities of the "enhanced" system, but to know the extent of a fair balance we first have to see how the teams get on with the systems. So let them use it for half a season, then Dorna can review what they allow for 2015. The solution I favour is to limit the number of sensors allowed.

Tetley

March 10, 2014 2:38 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP Factory 2 triggered by Ducati 'advantage'


RSMick "Honda could handed over their code and got the same advantage," They could have, but they didn't. Honda simply don't want other teams to share whatever advantages they perceive their systems as having. Ducati, on the other hand, freely gave their systems for Marelli to use as they see fit. Making the improved system available means all Open teams can use as much, or as little as their bikes or budgets will allow. I'll agree Marellis timing was off, and the improvements were introduced too late to be useful for some teams, but Ducati gave it much much earlier to Marelli, and it was Marelli, presumably approved by Dorna, who chose to release it so late. Honda have consistently mis-interpretted the Rules. Ducati have skillfully interepretted the Rules. While Gigi is demonstrating brilliant tactical management , I reckon that behind the scenes some prominent Honda team management are getting their Rrses kicked by their bosses.

Tetley

March 08, 2014 10:07 AM
Last Edited 137 days ago

MotoGP » MotoGP Factory 2 triggered by Ducati 'advantage'


ProfessorX: "The people pushing it's all a Honda conspiracy really don't understand what the circus' business model is all about."
I for one DO understand the business model, AND the politics utilised to ensure the business model's success. But I don't want to watch Business Model racing. I don't want to watch Political racing. I want to watch MotoGP racing. I want to watch racing where the Rules are determined months beforehand so teams can decide their strategies for the coming season, and have those rules strictly complied with by all. Changing Rules so late in the game can ruin a teams planned strategy. When Lividio Suppo said a few days ago " We will have to discuss this with Dorna" it reminded me of the thugs in the soaps " 'avin' a word" with the characters they dominate.

Tetley

March 07, 2014 4:33 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP Factory 2 triggered by Ducati 'advantage'


Dorna has crumbled to Honda's demands. Honda has won. They have beaten Dorna. They have beaten the Rules. They have beaten the spectators and the enthusiasts.They have beaten their rivals into a weaker position before the lights have gone out and before a wheel has turned. They have beaten the Sport. It is futile for any other team, except the two factory Yamahas, to think they stand a chance while Honda can have the Rules changed always in their favour.. The series is fixed. The outcome is pre-determined. I've lost faith in the competition. That's it for me. Suddenly Formula One appears fairer.

Tetley

March 08, 2014 10:38 AM
Last Edited 137 days ago

MotoGP » MotoGP Factory 2 triggered by Ducati 'advantage'


shamarone: re: "re: "You haven't got any more bloody clue exactly what these Private Team Principals really think about this than any of the rest of us." exactly, that's why i said go ask them...!?!? DUUHHH. i can understand if you're afraid of the dare i issued.
Sham, you're being ridiculous to issue a "dare" when you know too well that no-one here has the facilities to do it. We would all love to have the clout that would enable us to directly ask the names which you quoted exactly what their individual opinions are, and if we did we wouldn't be stooping to take any notice of your rants. No-one is afraid of your "dare", and it is ludicrous to claim so. I dare YOU to jump the Atlantic in a single bound. See, you're afraid to do it.

Tetley

March 07, 2014 12:23 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP to create Factory 2 class?


Garcia: "TalentFan, Why do you blame Honda? The open class rule was too loose and Ducati and Yamaha decided to take advantage of it."
Garcia, you have answered your own question. THE RULES may have allowed new interpretations but they were THE RULES and any Team manager who did not read THE RULES properly and take maximum advantage from THE RULES is a fool. THE RULES are published in advance of the season and THE RULES specify the circumstances under which every Team is allowed to compete. All Teams must produce packages which comply with THE RULES. THE RULES determine how each Team plans it's strategy for the season ahead. Honda is the ONLY team to regard THE RULES as optional, and subject to change, and they use their MIGHT, not their RIGHT, to manipulate THE RULES to include aspects to their own advantage and remove aspects which give advantage to other Teams. Honda are ruining the sporting aspect of racing.


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