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Tetley

April 12, 2013 1:38 PM

MOTOGP » Qatar MotoGP: Rossi dazzles on Yamaha return


Ok @lad, @realist, @Roman, You make your points very well, so I'll happily conceed that your points have placed a large question mark over my interpretation. I fully agree with with your comments about Cal's philosophy and determination. However, I think we can all agree that Yamaha would not have been pleased if Cal had held up Vale, and handed points to the Hondas. Incidentally, I think Yam should be concerned about the exhaust flames- it's a waste of fuel at a time when they are struggling to make the distance.

Tetley

April 11, 2013 12:48 PM

MOTOGP » Qatar MotoGP: Rossi dazzles on Yamaha return


@Realist “@Tetley Okay, so how might you respond to the retorts a few days about the instances in which a satellite team won a WC or beat factory guys in a race. I personally feel that people give too much credence to “team order” suppositions. It's my opinion. You're free to disagree. ” Nicely put mate. Like yourself, I’d like to see every man and machine racing the others and the best crew winning. However, I’m convinced that when big money and status are involved then there is more cloak-and-dagger stuff behind the scenes than we outsiders will ever know. That’s the nature of Management in ultra-competitive scenarios. Regarding VR46 passing CC35, I’m sure that Cal’s pit signals had shown Vale coming up fast, and Cal had realised he couldn’t prevent being passed, so he chose not to delay Vale by contesting the overtake. If he had fought with VR46, then the consequent delay in Vale’s progress would have favoured the Hondas, which Yam's management would not view benignly. Smart Cal.

Tetley

April 10, 2013 1:58 PM

MOTOGP » Qatar MotoGP: Rossi dazzles on Yamaha return


@Realist "@Claes Your comments are marginally entertaining despite the absurdity. Cal getting Dani's ride? Ehhh, won't happen." @realist "@ Tetley The JL/BS example you posed is irrelevant. The whole “team orders” suppositions are nonsense." Sadly there are far more influences on a racer's results than @realist chooses to consider. Team Politics, Manager and Manufacturer agreements, Financial considerations, implications and concessions and many unspoken and unpublished agreements are just a few of those real but unseen influences. A wider view is needed to reveal the whole picture. @realist, Let's not degenerate into personal criticism of the "not paying attention" variety. It is not constructive and will only snowball. We have to accept that others have opinions, and that just because they interpret situations differently does not make them wrong. And stating opinions as fact does not make them true.

Tetley

April 10, 2013 1:22 PM

MOTOGP » Control ECU confirmed, testing tightened for MotoGP 2014


The Fuel penalty for factories using their own ECUs appears excessive. I am surprised that Honda and Yamaha agreed to such a reduction in fuel allowance AND to 5 engines versus twelve engines per season. I have previously suggested that by limiting the number of sensors per bike ( and thereby reducing the parameters that ECU's can control ) would be a far more effective method of controlling costs and reducing the technology gap between the various teams. I can't see any downsides to this solution- I wonder if Dorna and the factories have considered this ?

Tetley

April 09, 2013 11:17 PM

MOTOGP » Qatar MotoGP: Rossi dazzles on Yamaha return


.@Realist "LOL if you really think that Crutchlow, spoiled, "I deserve a factory ride" Cruthlow would let somebody by him, you must not be paying attention to the attitude that he has displayed the past couple of seasons." Sure for the past couple of seasons he's doggedly refused to allow others to pass him without a fight, especially Dovi, BUT if You had been paying attention you'd have seen that Cal hadn't had JLo (or Ben’s Pies) in a hurry right behind him, and VR46 was with a different team, so there are huge differences in circumstances between last year and 2013. Regarding Cal being "spoiled, I deserve a factory ride Cruthlow", how has he been spoiled?. He's come up the hard way, no family fortune, no rich sponsors to buy him rides. He's achieved what he has on merit and has ridden great races with broken bones showing bravery and determination. Factory ride? He's certainly ready for the next step up. But he certainly won't get one from Yamaha if he doesn't do what they ask him.

Tetley

April 09, 2013 7:19 PM

MOTOGP » Qatar MotoGP: Rossi dazzles on Yamaha return


@Claes- I agree with you. Even Nicky Hayden has more Repsol Honda championships than Dani. @rabcati- “Tetley. If they wanted 2 factory bikes ahead then last year Cal would have had to park his ride every race while Spies caught up lol. “ Good point- maybe that’s one of the reasons why they are doing it differently this year. Last year they relied too much on their second rider and it let them down. This year a Yam 1-2-3 is a real possibility. @Dave- “@Tetley, are suggesting that Cal let vale through in this race or are you simply predicting that he will be or has been given this directive as a general?“ Ducati control a First and a Junior team with 4 riders on works bikes. Honda give satellite riders works bikes and will expect benefits from that arrangement. T3 are highly dependant on Yamaha and I’m sure Cal has been made aware that he shouldn’t get in the way when a Yamaha works rider is on a charge. Cal will not want to upset his paymasters as they control his future.

Tetley

April 09, 2013 10:55 AM
Last Edited 42 days ago

MOTOGP » Qatar MotoGP: Rossi dazzles on Yamaha return


@Realist- "@ Tetley- Thanks for that! I've been saying all along that the T3 bikes are very, very close to the factory bike potential (obvious as the bike was on the front row and held onto the Hondas)." Yes, Cal claiming that they had "nothing new to test" was clearly a smokescreen ( spot the subtle grammatical contradiction). With engine allocations cut from 6 to 5, last years motors would probably not have lasted the whole of 2013. What we don't know is what "phase" the T3 engines are and what "phase" the Works bikes are. To me it makes good sense to give Cal the equipment to hinder the Hondas. I mentioned "team orders" a couple of threads ago. Now, even more than then, I feel that Cal has been told that if VR46 is behind him, let him through. But I don't think Marquez has the same instructions regarding Dani!

Tetley

April 08, 2013 7:59 PM

MOTOGP » Qatar MotoGP: Rossi dazzles on Yamaha return


@HG - Unregistered “Someone said Crutchlow cracked under pressure coz of his pace which was enough to compete with Lorenzo. -Crutchlow never cracked under pressure, he just did not have the bike for a podium. There is an obvious power difference between the factory and the sat Yamahas.” In a tweet today, Cal told Neil Hodgson “same as factory bikes engine wise ! Don’t know why I lost so much mate on straight”. Different electronics settings ? Or maybe he just lost out to the Hondas, and was on a par with the factory Yams. I’d like to see comparative speed trap figures.


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