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TedG

February 16, 2013 1:44 AM
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MOTOGP » Dovizioso on Ducati: The bad point is now


@ Slide Rules, Actually I saw a blog in GPOne that was very technical in explaining the weight bias and the construction of the different frames Ducati was using. I just haven't had the time to find it. The search I did popped up that Emmets thing. I will look for the other one, it makes it hard to find because the orig was in Italian. Found it: h t t p://gpone.com/albertocani/2012/07/18/lanalisi-tecnica-il-telaio-della-ducati-gp12-e-la-questione-della-coperta-corta/

TedG

February 14, 2013 10:42 PM

MOTOGP » Dovizioso on Ducati: The bad point is now


First of all it was not the same bike, if we remember correctly it was the GP11.1 which was a de-stroked GP12. The GP 12 felt better because it had more torque and got out of the corners quicker, meaning it spent less time cranked all the way over. The GP11.1 lost all that torque and the initial problems came right back because the 800 needs that corner speed. And for those touting the trellis frame, remember even Stoner said that no two were alike even when set up exactly the same. That is caused by too many welds. It is almost impossible to get consistency. And the trellis frame severely impaired the air box size. No, Ducati needs to go to a 72 or 65 degree V four, stack the gearbox, and get the mass as close to the center as possible. Then and only then can they move the engine around enough to get it right. Keep the twin spar frame and use the longest spars possible to mount the engine, this gives enough flex to absorb bumps when heeled over and prevent chatter. Lengthen the swin

TedG

February 14, 2013 9:38 PM

MOTOGP » Dovizioso on Ducati: The bad point is now


Let's all hope that the new boss is just seeing where they are today for himself, then re evaluating, then hitting the engineering dept hard to get a new bike out. OR they are working on a new bike and it is not ready and they are just using the tests to allow the riders to at least practice. If they were going to improve the bike, wouldn't they have made some changes other than paint???? No it has to be that this bike is gone.

TedG

February 14, 2013 7:31 PM

MOTOGP » Dovizioso on Ducati: The bad point is now


I'm sorry but the condition of the Ducati is the fault of Ducati Engineering. They have had good feedback from Stoner, Hayden, and Rossi. What they did with that feedback was not near enough. ALL have said the same thing. The only thing Stoner did wrong is lull the engineers at Ducati into thinking that the bike was not so bad because Stoner would risk his life to get results and did just that. At a very high cost.


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