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TheTroll

February 14, 2011 6:15 AM
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MotoGP » Suppo: Hire the best riders, get the 'best' bike


elsewhere to confirm their performance capability.In 2003 Honda gave Rossi a new engine with 3 megaphone exhausts and he hated it and refused to use it. So Honda gave it to Gibernau and he went on a 3 race win-streak and Rossi started to use it too. So He was wrong in that instance. May even be part of why he left Honda for giving the good bits to Gibernau.If you read the Furusawa article you can see that he as an engineer understands every aspect of the engine and chassis performance from his computer. They are not blind, but at times arrogant to accept a flaw in their designs.Luckily for Rossi they agree to listen to his requests for changes to a bike most likely in his contract.(just my opinion)I remember everyone slagging Max Biaagi as having no development ability, What a slap in the face 2009 and 2010 WSBK must have been to them.

TheTroll

February 14, 2011 6:07 AM

MotoGP » Suppo: Hire the best riders, get the 'best' bike


None of that has anything to do with Rossi being a good development rider. The biggest issue with a development rider is whether or not the engineers build what you ask for. But in my opinion they already know the flaws of their design. Yamaha is strong in the chassis and power delivery but not outright speed. Ducati engine , but weak in chassis and honda is somewhere in the middle closer to the yamaha.If Cal Crutchlow is any good I expect to see him and Colin Edwards nearer to the front since the updates will be more readily available without a Rossi restraining order in effect at Yamaha that will allow them to field more evenly matched bikes the way Ducati has been doing in previous years. Colin Edwards has done the bulk of (so-called)development riding on the M1 since 2005. Up until last season he was a yamaha employee riding a tech3 bike(correct me if I am wrong).I am sure that no matter the team by the time the parts get to the race team they have been around the track in Japan or

TheTroll

February 13, 2011 6:59 PM

MotoGP » Suppo: Hire the best riders, get the 'best' bike


My point is that everyone is not given a fair chance to succeed so when someone manages to beat Rossi in his prime he has done something great, especially someone like Stoner who came up the hard way and had his family sacrifice to get a shot at road racing. Most of these guys come from a pedigree or their parents are loaded(nothing personal Karel Abraham, you're not the only guy in the field who has had access to the best money can buy). Jorge is the first teammate to beat Rossi over a season and to the championship so that is another achievment and we know Rossi did everything in his power on and off the track to make sure that would never happen. In the states we call the MLB championship the world series. We have one of, if not the best, leagues in the world. But its not a world championship.

TheTroll

February 13, 2011 7:13 AM

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@budoist You confirm my statement though because you are saying that he only lost because of equipment and otherwise nobody can beat Rossi. So when do we see if that's true, next year, because for sure the shoulder excuses will be the reason he loses this year(but everyone else is just whining). So you guys give me an accountable time line. He was the best rider for a long time. He won a lot before the new arrivals and since they have been here it has been harder and harder. Not to mention it is called a world championship when it is 99% spain, italy france japan and UK with about 5-6 guys from the USA (125-moto2-motogp) Leaving a very large portion of the world untapped due to economic exclusion because it takes money to play with these kinds of toys, so it is not even truly a world championship despite the fact they race on tracks in different spots around the world. So who really is the best? It should be called the western Europe GP championship.not world championship.

TheTroll

February 12, 2011 6:43 PM

MotoGP » Suppo: Hire the best riders, get the 'best' bike


So let me get this straight. According to most posters on this site, Rossi has never lost or been beaten. His machine has failed, his tires have failed or he was injured all of which cancel out a defeat in some weird kind of quotient they are looking at. Whether or not I lose because of tires or engine failure or just being plain slow I thought that was a loss as applied to all riders in a championship. So technically He has a perfect score of 25 points per race since 1996 if you take away those factors, right?

TheTroll

February 12, 2011 9:29 AM
Last Edited 1265 days ago

MotoGP » Suppo: Hire the best riders, get the 'best' bike


Actually Rossi had led all year after the Qatar race in 2008. Stoner had a 3 race streak going into Laguna. He never had both hands on the 2008 title. Rossi was in first place at the last race and crashed battling with Chris Vermeulen not a bunch of Hondas.They all crash. So, what?(to be fair Rossi was trailing by 51 points at the summer break and only got the lead after Dani took Nicky out) Rossi was able to be on the best teams and machinery and have no major injuries before 2010. He is still good but facing more competition these days. By the way engineers do know what an engine does between 5000 and 8000 rpms. Its called a dyno and everybody who builds engines has one. You think Rossi designed the torque curve on the M1 wake up! Biaggi and Kocinski asked for that type of power delivery before Rossi even thought of Yamaha. Furusawa was the first engineer to listen.


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