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June 23, 2013 6:07 PM

F1 » F1 2013 POLL: Did Tribunal reach correct verdict in 'tyre-gate' row?

There is an exception written into the rules so you would have to first look at the exception to see if it can reasonably be invoked. If the answer is no then you can go to the rule and apply it as set. If however the answer is yes then you have to see how closely it follows the guidelines and base any penalty on that. The exception takes precedence which is why it is there. To be focused on Mercedes or Pirelli instead of the exception is pointless, focus on the exception then the rule and try to reconciliate them. Then apply the finding to whomever.


June 23, 2013 3:50 PM
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F1 » Mercedes and Pirelli get reprimands for 'secret' tyre test

Let me advance a conspiracy theory. Pirelli,having engineering problems with their tyres, not wanting to admit to having unsafe tyres and getting no help from the majority of the teams was between a rock and a hard place. Mercedes, while confident in the progress they were making got a shock with the Hamilton tyre accident and so had to verify whether they or Pirelli were doing something wrong. Lotus and a few others thought they had a good enough setup so were never going to help. Now to the plot. Pirelli having got an agreement to help from Mercedes told Mercedes about Ferrari's testing which set off lightbulbs in Ross' head. Ross,looking at the rules and seeing the opportunity to invoke the exception clause without actually having to involve everyone else, checked with and got a go ahead from Whiting and the FIA legal dept. Pirelli then set up the test for after the GP, fully knowing that the current cars would be available.


June 22, 2013 5:35 PM

F1 » Mercedes accepts ruling, won't launch appeal

@ Rich, at the start of this to do, I cautioned that some posters should try to be more objective and go with available facts not rumors or opinions. I stated that all shown so far pointed to either no guilt or three equally guilty parties. We know the result of the hearing. If you are willing to accept the verdict per Mercedes, why can't you accept the remainder of the verdict. No points will be lost by Mercedes, Nico or Lewis.


June 21, 2013 9:53 PM

F1 » Mercedes 'gained advantage' from Pirelli test

@Richard, three parties were before the tribunal,three were found equally responsible for the fiasco and unless Pirelli or the FIA appeals this verdict there will be three convicted entities including the rules makers. Three equals two, Pirelli and Mercedes, plus the FIA. Please quote the tribunal completely. Put another way Pirelli 33 1/3 percent, Mercedes 33 1/3 percent, something is missing wouldn't you say. Also the tribunal weren't sure that the Ferrari tests, which no one had known about as well,were legal but they were not among the subjects of the trial.

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