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1Jez

April 09, 2014 12:54 AM
Last Edited 194 days ago

F1 » Maldonado penalised for Gutierrez clash


richard: jez. what a ridiculous post.
Play the ball, not the man, Richard.
richard:yes, it was good fortune. had the wheel actually detached itself, it would have been rolling down the road at around 60kph. would you have liked to be in its path? apart from that, had dr got on to the track, and the wheel came off at speed, he could easily have suffered injuries.
But it DIDN'T come off and he DIDN'T enter the track, so what harm is there? I agree that there should be a harsh penalty in the case such as Webber's errant wheel, but the same thing did not happen with Ricciardo. Fortune, luck, karma... it's all a fallacy. There is no such thing as inherent fairness in the universe. Believing in luck is akin to believing in psychic mediums.
richard:any risk assessment works on the "what ifs", and the aim is to reduce as many possibilities of injury, as possible.
Risk assessment also takes into consideration the l

1Jez

April 09, 2014 12:42 AM

F1 » Maldonado penalised for Gutierrez clash


Mark: @Jez - I am pretty sure if Lotus had the choice they would trade the 3 penalty points for a 5 grid place drop.
I am pretty sure that you are not a Lotus spokesman, which means that that comment is nothing more than speculation. On the other hand, you may be correct. Lotus are probably VERY nervous about this whole penalty points thing, considering that Maldonado is the most penalised driver in a season in F1 history. My money is on him being the first to get a ban (he should have been banned on a few occasions already).

1Jez

April 08, 2014 4:38 PM
Last Edited 196 days ago

F1 » Maldonado penalised for Gutierrez clash


richard: it was only good fortune that the car was stopped before any damage or injury was caused.
There's no such thing as good fortune, only good management. It was not dumb luck that either screwed up the pit stop nor averted an injury. The former was a human failure, the latter was a successful intervention. In criminal law, the penalty for driving at speeds or in a manner that could kill or injure someone is (rightly) far, far less than actually killing or injuring someone. Why is that principle not applied in this sport? Because a freak incident occured once and the FIA needs to look like they're doing something about it? "Unsafe" releases have happened many, many times, yet the occurrence of actual injury or damage to a car as a result is so low it is barely worth considering. Maldonado caused more car damage 2 years ago than unsafe releases have caused in the last 5 years combined.

1Jez

April 08, 2014 4:25 PM

F1 » Maldonado penalised for Gutierrez clash


Mark :The penalty points are much worse given that they will lead to a race ban.
Only if Maldonado keeps accruing the points will it lead to a ban, so the points for this offence of itself do little. Even if Maldonado's punishment were more harsh than Ricciardo's (which is utter hogwash) so it damn well should be. Maldonado's ham-fisted driving resulted in an actual crash that was pretty serious. What was result of the unsafe release of Ricciardo? Absolutely nothing.
Mark :And while the grid drop was less the stewards decide to add to the original penalty unlike Ricciardo who received the minimum penalty allowed for RBRs offense.
Ricciardo's penalty being the minimum for that offence does not make the penalty right. It is far, far too harsh.
Mark :The possibilty of contact by starting mid pack is the real penalty.
That aids my argument, not yours. So... what's your point?

1Jez

April 07, 2014 2:17 PM

F1 » Horner lauds ‘top drawer’ Ricciardo after run to fourth


F1isaFraud:You've taken that quote out of context - I said i am sure i was better myself AND I WASN'T EVEN TOP 10. ie. - it's not about me - it's about what an invalid talent selection filtering process occurs in motorsport - with personal finances being 90% of the filter - resulting in the F1 that is promoted as the worlds best drivers is nothing of the sort - it's the world's best FUNDED drivers.
I took that quote entirely within context. You could have made your point quite well without any comparison between yourself (an internet commentator) and Ricciardo (a driver for the reigning world champions in the premier category of motor sport). For what it's worth, I agree with your main point that money takes some drivers too far (Maldonado is case in point) - but that does not mean you are not chowing down on some mighty sour grapes.

1Jez

April 07, 2014 2:09 PM

F1 » Horner lauds ‘top drawer’ Ricciardo after run to fourth


F1isaFraud: yes he thrashed Webber but Webber was even more mediocre in Australian karts than Riccardo - Webber was absolutely USELESS in karts - not even in australia top 100 whereas Riccardo was at least OK - maybe top 50) - unfortunately then the only logical conclusion is that the F1 field is FULL of silver-spoons kids
Have you ever paused to consider that perhaps karts and F1 are not the same? You may have had some good arguments to make, but you have lost all of your credibility through attacking other posters (mostly on other threads), making exaggerations to back your claims and talking yourself up. Not that popularity is the test of truth, but I think there is some wisdom in in a group - check out your agree to disagree ratio.

1Jez

April 07, 2014 12:56 PM

F1 » Maldonado penalised for Gutierrez clash


Words fail to describe how infuriating it is to see the difference in penalties between a driver stupidly causing an actual crash that is quite serious and a team error where that the driver has nothing to do with it and no harm is caused. How the hell does the former, where a bloke gets sent to hospital, get only a five place penalty and the latter, where there is little to no danger and certainly no actual crash, a 10 place penalty? Sort it out, FIA. This is absolutely outragous.

1Jez

April 07, 2014 1:47 PM

F1 » Ricciardo happy to be ‘close’ to podium return


F1isaFraud - if your moniker is what representative of what you think of F1, why are you on an an F1 news website wasting your (and our, for that matter) time making comments? Paddock and Yes both made relevant and good points and all you have done is blow in from nowhere and get aggressive. Dude, go away if you don't like F1. You can also just go away if you want to continue making comments in that fashion.


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