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JimmyJimmy

June 07, 2013 1:03 AM
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MotoGP » Pedrosa: Marquez improved after he copied our settings


@pcxmac "Marc looks more like Elias than Stoner, but you guys can keep trying to associate the two names to make yourselves happier" (EDIT - removed the original start to my post in response to changes in the post the post I'm responding to.) Getting back to actually talking about what we're talking about... I'm not saying anything about MM looking like Stoner. I'm saying, in comparison to Dani, MM and Stoner get their ass and bodies off the bike more - and there's no disputing that, it is as plain as day. Dani keeps a good portion of his ass on the seat and leans his body out. MM and Stoner get more of their ass off the seat and lean out from there, leading to a more 'off the bike' position. What's arguable is whether this has any affect on rear tyre wear between MM/Stoner and Pedrosa. My opinion is that it does. You're opinion is that it doesn't. I can live with that. We're both just guestimating.

JimmyJimmy

June 07, 2013 2:05 AM
Last Edited 398 days ago

MotoGP » Pedrosa: Marquez improved after he copied our settings


cont... However, I think MM is using more tyre than Dani during the course of a race but I think it is the front that MM uses more via a slightly higher mid-corner speed supported by a greater off-throttle lean angle which is supported by getting his body off the machine more. By utilising more front to match Dani's pace, he's then got a touch more rear relative to Dani when it's time to drop the hammer. Just an opinion.

JimmyJimmy

June 07, 2013 1:54 AM
Last Edited 398 days ago

MotoGP » Pedrosa: Marquez improved after he copied our settings


cont... If one rider can do a pace more easily than another rider, I think there's a fair chance the rider doing it more easily will be using less tyre, or at least using one tyre (front or rear) less. In 2012, it's much harder to compare Stoner and Pedrosa. Firstly, the chatter that was there (up to Stoner's accident) robbed Stoner of something that made him faster than Dani in 2011. Or, to put it another way, Dani was riding the 2012 bike better than Stoner. The debilitating chatter over-shadowed an anlysis of more subtle details like who's using their tyre more. But, getting back to what started this vein of the discussion - MM and tyres versus Dani and tyres. IMO, MM is showing that he is faster than Dani, including faster when its time to drop the hammer. Generally speaking, MM has shown he can do Dani's race pace more easily than Dani can and when it is time to drop the hammer, he's got Dani covered. What is ...

JimmyJimmy

June 07, 2013 2:19 AM

MotoGP » Pedrosa: Marquez improved after he copied our settings


@Chris Zarate "But in full lean, it's not really that visible cause of the physical limitations of Dani, he legs won't reach what other riders reach so fair play to him." lol yeah. Dani is often criticized with regard to his size/weight giving him an advantage but, as you say, it's his short legs that stop him from 'spidering' off the bike like the others. If he scooched over so that his thigh was lying across the seat, instead of a good portion of his ass, his outside foot would probably be a couple of inches off the peg.

JimmyJimmy

June 07, 2013 1:55 AM
Last Edited 398 days ago

MotoGP » Pedrosa: Marquez improved after he copied our settings


cont... What is certain, in my eyes, is that MM is faster on worn tires than Dani. What's uncertain is what this is down to. Is it just the expression of MM's relative speed no matter what the tyre wear? Does it mean MM is just better on a worn tyre than Dani? Does it mean MM is arriving at the latter stages of the races with his rubber in better condition? Is MM achieving better speed through risks that accidents will knock out of him? Is it a combination of all these factors? I agree with you that MM's current lack of relative smoothness might be using more tire but I don't think it is on the scale you are intimating (but we're both just guestimating). However, I think MM is ...

JimmyJimmy

June 07, 2013 1:53 AM
Last Edited 398 days ago

MotoGP » Pedrosa: Marquez improved after he copied our settings


@pcxmac "I dont buy it, Dani didnt have grip issues like this last year. Dani never had grip issues against Casey" I'm not sure this is right buddy. In 2011, on the chatterless Honda, Stoner would regularly appear to have more tyre than Dani in the latter third of the race. Just like MM, this is probably down to two things imo. Firstly, Stoner could handle the worn tyre better than Dani, and I think that is the same for MM (this must be true if, as you say, MM is being harder than Dani on tyres during the course of a race but ends up being faster than Dani in the latter stages). Secondly, and this is far more arguable, the difference in their riding styles and approach led Stoner to actually have more tyre than Dani in the latter stages. For most of 2011, there's no doubt that Stoner could do Dani's pace more easily than Dani could do Dani's pace. In 2013, for the most part, I think the same could be said of Marquez. If one rider can do a pace more...

JimmyJimmy

June 06, 2013 1:06 PM
Last Edited 399 days ago

MotoGP » Pramac Ducati confirm Max Biaggi MotoGP test


This brings on a wry smile. Max hasn't missed this opportunity to stick the knife in and twist. How cool for Max if, via an opportunity on the machine Rossi failed on, he can show up Rossi's performances on both the Yamaha and Ducati. And if he doesn't manage to do so, no-one's going to be too critical. He can't lose. He might finallly put one over on his one time arch rival.

JimmyJimmy

June 06, 2013 5:45 PM
Last Edited 399 days ago

MotoGP » Pedrosa: Marquez improved after he copied our settings


@jixr "I was under the impression that Marc hangs off the bike further than danny ... that could explain why it seems marc has better tire wear than danny " Personally, I've got no doubt that is precisely why MM has a better rear tyre than Dani come the end of the race. When Stoner was on the Honda, it was very noticable how much more Stoner got his ass and body way more off the bike than Dani. It is also very noticeable that MM does the same. I think it is a big factor in why Stoner and MM are faster than Dani and seem to have more rear tyre than Dani toward the end of the race.


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