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izybluffen

November 02, 2012 4:52 PM

F1 » Vettel: We still need to go at full throttle


Mate, now your just talking BS. Seb scored 1 pole and win in the STR. All the rest of wins and pole are in the RB which is the fastest car. Senna with 16 poles and 8 wins at Lotus, which was not the best car shows the skill of Senna and the needing the best car of Seb. Can you seriously not see the difference. Or is it you cant hand a dead f1 legend being way better than your hero ??? You are a serious Seb fanboy if you cant recognise the raw speed of Senna in Quali.

izybluffen

November 02, 2012 4:37 PM
Last Edited 627 days ago

F1 » Vettel: We still need to go at full throttle


@ BK - LMAO - In 1984 Senna practically won the Monaco Gp in that Toleman !!! Accomplished nothing of note..... Mate are you 16 just getting info off wiki ?? The Macca and Williams were both better than the Lotus, Senna destroyed his team mates there. So Senna had the 3rd/4th best car and still got all his results. Have you seen some old 85 and 86 races where the 3 quicker cars powered past the Lotus easy ??? Guess not. Senna did nothing of note in 1992 you say, LOL, he still won 3 races against the mighty 92 Williams !!!! The Monaco race that year was a classic. Even more Senna won 2 WDC's against Prost. In 88 he won 13 poles and 8 races against another "great" Do ya reckon Seb could do that against Alonso ???? No way !!

izybluffen

November 02, 2012 4:42 PM
Last Edited 627 days ago

F1 » Vettel: We still need to go at full throttle


Mate your just upset that Senna could get poles and win without the fastest car and Seb cant. To say that Senna only got poles and wins in the Lotus because it was the fastest car is grossly inaccurate. It was not the fastest car, just had the fastest driver in F1 history behind the wheel. Again, are you just upset, are you even old enough to remember those races ?? BTW these are no conclusions as you put it. they are FACT. Trying to gibberish about it will get you no where.

izybluffen

November 02, 2012 9:08 AM

F1 » Vettel: We still need to go at full throttle


@ Richard - There will be another. That can do many things before they get to the best car. Senna and Schumi both did on many more than 1 occasion when the fastest cars were much quicker but they made the difference. The things with the cars being closer these days should make it even easier for the next star to make his mark. As for knocking on my countryman, we all know he is no Prost, but that does not stop me supporting him. Maybe if Mark was Seb's age things would be different. He has had some epic quali runs in the dry in Jags and Williams. Even Seb didn't get on the front row in the dry in crappy cars.

izybluffen

November 02, 2012 4:44 AM
Last Edited 627 days ago

F1 » Vettel: We still need to go at full throttle


Wow, getting a little upset. Senna's Lotus was never the fastest car, to say that shows your lack of history ! Senna won the 1991 WDC when the Williams was a better car. The 2 examples you mention are average at best. Senna won pole in 1993 Mclaren against the dominate Williams and in 1987 when the Lotus was preety bad. Again the Lotus was not the fastest car and scored 16 poles in total. "drives like these" are something Seb has never done ! Yes Seb is good, maybe even pretty good. He is still no "great" except in fanboys eyes. At the end of the day this debate is pointless as Ayrton has been voted greatest driver ever in too many polls and magazines etc, and looking at Sebs career and competition he has no chance of matching that title. Come back when Seb actually wins a WDC against a WDC teammate, wins without the best car (on more than 1 lucky occasion) has some epic drives to put in the history books and stops showing that stupid finger.

izybluffen

November 02, 2012 2:48 AM

F1 » Vettel: We still need to go at full throttle


Lol - Reality is not hating.... its reality. You Seb fanboys are turning worse than the Lulu ones ! The real gold standard is Newey. That's the real fact, and it's more like you guys cant handle the fact it is the car. You guys were all sooky sooky this year when Seb didn't have the best car on the day. But now he clearly has the best car again you are all up on your high horse calling haters etc !!!! Go figure. So whats the point of the story - The car and Newey ! Reality !

izybluffen

November 02, 2012 1:21 AM
Last Edited 627 days ago

F1 » Vettel: We still need to go at full throttle


Let me add my 2 cents 1- Yes, Senna didn't race in WDC with 5 WDC drivers, in 1985 he raced with 4. Piquet, Lauda, Jones, Rosberg, and if you wannaa include Prost and Mansell who would win, that makes 6. 2- Where are the statistics that show races won not from the front of the grid, or when troubles set them back at the start and still won ? That's where Seb lacks and that's what people are saying. 3- @ BK - Senna and Shumi won plenty of times not being on the front of the grid. You say there is no proof....... There is plenty. You must be young, as even Richard knows this if he cares to admit it. Just look at Spain 1996 or Donnington 93 for 2 quick examples. Your having a sook because Seb cant put in drives like these 2 and you know it. 4- Yes Seb will win this year 5- The whole point of what people are saying about not really rating Seb is just look at 2012 season. Seb has only won with the best car on the day and now is out of touch because of Newey. The greats didn't need the bes


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