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June 18, 2014 4:53 PM
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MotoGP » Pol Espargaro inspired by past Marquez battles

RossL: I don't think the real difference is the bikes - not at the beginning of the season at least. Livio Suppo said that Bradl's and Bautista's RCVs are identical to the ones of Pedrosa and Marquez in terms of what Honda provide them. The difference is with the teams - the satellite teams just aren't as well funded as the factory teams, they can't afford to spend as much on optimising the electronics. That's why they have no problems qualifying fast, but during the races they can't manage the electronics as well and so they drop down the order.
Agreed! People always respond with, "Well, if X rider had a factory bike, then they'd be winning". That isn't necessarily true. In fact, it's probably largely untrue. Sometimes I wish we could play 'swap-a-bike' or a game called 'try-my-bike-and-see-how-well-you-do' just to prove a point.


June 18, 2014 4:12 PM

MotoGP » We're closer to beating Marquez, says Rossi

Yearby23: @ Jorgebest.. The 2014 season on Wiki is the championship standings... The only difference between Pedrosa and Rossi is that Rossi finished 8th as his lowest and Pedrosa finished 5th lowest and Rossi has 1 more 2nd position...Thats where your 5 point advantage for Rossi came from. Pedrosa will be 2nd this season though, especially when we hit the Honda circuits after the summer break.
that's it HONDA, which VR has his first couple titles with. then went on to win more with yamaha. when mm can win titles on another team other than honda, then u can compare him to VR. until then he's just another good champ, like fred spencer and so on......
I admire your enthusiasm, and I, too, am a MM/VR/DP fan, but saying that he must win on multiple bikes sounds as bad as those who diminish VR's titles because he didn't win on the Ducati. All of it is nonsense, and titles are titles.


June 18, 2014 6:58 PM

MotoGP » Marquez: MotoGP titles matter more than records

TalentFan: ...same story, new day...
Welcome back, TF! How was your break from MotoGP? You must have found it refreshing, because I can see that you've returned with renewed vigor. Keep it up! Just don't take too seriously that which you can't change. :)
That's like telling an elephant not to be afraid of mice (..not that TF is literally an elephant, but I digress). It just won't happen.


June 18, 2014 5:47 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro inspired by past Marquez battles

Moto89: If factory kit is really so superior why is that riders who switch from satellite to factory kit never drastically improve their results? Dovizioso, Bradl, Biaggi, Barros. What do these riders have in common? They all rode satellite and then official factory Hondas, and their results showed no discernable improvement that can be solely attributed to the differences in factory and satellite machinery. In Biaggi's and Barros' cases their results actually slightly worsened once they got their hands on Repsol Hondas. In fact i challenge anybody to name a single rider since the advent of the current motogp format who's results improved dramatically soley due the acquisition of a factory machine, that had previously been nothing but a mid pack rider on a satellite version of the same bike.
I can't wait to see what people come up with to respond to this.


June 19, 2014 12:25 AM

MotoGP » Crutchlow loathe to run soft tyre 'out of principle'

looey: In december in a interview cal said "And that's what the team need. They need a rider that'll ride it with square wheels. Try their best on it." Seems a far cry from his approach now.
I'm surprised that it took this long for somebody to post actual quotes (..for both him and Dovi). What they said back then surely isn't what they are saying now. Good find Looey!


June 18, 2014 5:54 PM

MotoGP » Pol Espargaro inspired by past Marquez battles

KnowNothing: There will never be absolute parity in GP or any sport for that matter. Claims of what riders could do on other machinery may be an interesting intellectual exercise, but making absolute claims about the success of any rider/bike combo is silly. Honda this, Honda that. Maybe JL would hate the Honda? Maybe MM would hate the Yam? There is so much more to the equation than just bike to bike, rider to rider comparisons. So enjoy the show and hopefully the good racing it brings.
Try telling that to TalentFan and ProfessorX.

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