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Realist

August 31, 2015 4:48 PM
Last Edited 1 day 9 hours ago

MotoGP » Redding: Nice to know Ducati really want me


Let's switch to a more logical discussion and set the emotion aside now. Let's discuss next year. To summarize, Redding fans believe that the Ducati will suit his style more. The Ducati of old is gone. Considering that Redding tested the 2012 Ducati rather than the current GP15, how many races do Redding fans believe it will take for Redding to get up to speed? Both he and Petrucci will get the GP15 at the same time, so neither will have any previous experience with that iteration of bike. At what point will Redding fans feel that it is okay to criticize his performance (especially considering that he feels he is more talented than the current crop of satellite Ducati riders)? If the claim is that it will suit Redding's style more than the Honda, he should be up to speed quickly then.......right? I'm holding his fans to the fire here. Also, let's concede now that Pramac will be on [nearly] this year's bike and they won't get updates, so that excuse is nullifed.

Realist

August 31, 2015 4:18 PM

MotoGP » Redding: Nice to know Ducati really want me


tobecis: You obviously did not watch much of 2012 moto2?
What is that supposed to mean? Redding was behind Marquez by a WHOPPING 163 points. How on Earth could that be labeled a "narrow miss on the WC"? If Rossi lost to Lorenzo by 163 points, would you be saying Rossi narrowly missed out on the WC? Hell no you wouldn't. Redding didn't win one race in 2012, and he was on the podium a handful of times. Marquez won 9 races, and was only off of the podium 3 times that entire season (two crashes and one 5th).

Realist

August 31, 2015 5:46 PM

MotoGP » Redding: Nice to know Ducati really want me


mrfill: CC has been on a factory or satellite bike for over 4 seasons. Redding is half way through his first season on a satellite bike and is 27 points behind after 12 races. That is a smaller gap than between Dovi and Iannone. CC has been disappointing this year. So has Redding.
Ok, but let's delve deeper into the comparison. Nobody can dispute that between Crutchlow and Dovi, they rode the wheels off of the T3 bikes in 2012/2013. In 2015, you can call his performance "disappointing" because has crashed out of 5 races, but for the races he completed, he was no lower than 8th and was on the podium once. So, despite 5 crashes, he's still ahead of Redding because he's simply a better rider. As for the Dovi/Iannone comparison, Iannone has been more consistent and hasn't crashed once. Dovi has crashed 3 times.

Realist

August 31, 2015 4:23 PM
Last Edited 1 day 12 hours ago

MotoGP » Redding: Nice to know Ducati really want me


mrfill: Honda and Yamaha give little support to their satellite teams on the electronics side. Smith and Crutchlow have both said this and in the case of Honda, they have had frame and engine problems which have diverted what little attention they had, away from the satellite bikes to fix the factory bikes. Ducati and Pramac are closer and Pramac get better (although probably not full) support - especially in the electronics. It is this that Redding wants and needs Their bike is also not designed around the Honda jockey-size template rider and may fit Redding better.
Even if Honda gave them no electronics support, he still failed to match Crutchlow. That's who we should be directly comparing him to, not the phenom that is Marquez. Pramac will get this year's bike, and will not be a full factory trim bike. It will be near factory, and they won't be getting updates either. Redding already has an excuse in the bag.

Realist

August 31, 2015 4:14 PM

MotoGP » Redding: Nice to know Ducati really want me


MikoGP: Carpenter, I wouldn't call losing to Marc by 163 points "just short of a Moto2 championship" He competed with Espargaro [barely] Never been anywhere near Marc, except for ONE moto2 race at Silverstone. Seems like this moto2 race is the only one Scott's fans remember.
Exactly. It's funny how they craft their words to make it seem like Redding is/was better than he actually is.

Realist

August 31, 2015 4:12 PM

MotoGP » Redding: Nice to know Ducati really want me


tobecis: I agree realist but you must agree too there are plenty of SR hatters with no real discussion input. SR believes he is not getting the backing he deserves from Honda and I guess rightly so on this years performance. With MM on Honda no one else is going to get anything accept MM. Like any sports person they go where they get the chance to be on top and I guess SR believes this is the right move, good luck to him.
Honda built Redding a frame specifically for him, just as they do with all of their riders. Of course Redding will blame Honda. He went on a tirade about being stuck with the same stuff, and Marquez going back to the 2014 frame, but Marquez is the only rider who did because it was better suited to his style. Pedrosa and Crutchlow are on their respective '15 frames. Mark my words, Redding will be blaming Ducati next year because Pramac won't be getting factory updates.

Realist

August 31, 2015 5:17 PM
Last Edited 1 day 12 hours ago

MotoGP » Smith closes wet weather gap, maintains Satellite standing


SmokinHaddock: And unlike the predictions by some that in the second half of the season he would fall behind Pol, he has in fact now taken an unassailable head to head lead.
Unassailable? There's a 34 point difference between the two of them. The season isn't over yet. Anything can happen in 6 races. Smith has been riding well though. He's staying on the bike and bringing it across the line.

Realist

August 31, 2015 9:08 AM
Last Edited 2 days ago

MotoGP » Petrucci beats stars in 18th to 2nd charge


Pugde5: Petrucci trains with Iannone and Rossi, he does not care what Redding thinks. I am sure that he can learn a move or two from him though. Everyone has good points. There will never be a feud.
By "feud" I'm referring to the unspoken rivalry that will ensue. Whether it's stated explicitly or not, it will be present. If you were Petrucci and Redding spoke of you in that manner, would you forget his words? Wouldn't you seek to shut him up on the track? Surely you would. To deny that Petrucci didn't utter a few expletives at Redding's comments and think to himself, "I'm going to [try to] mop this guy next year", is to simply deny/ignore human nature. Petrucci training with Iannone and Rossi is irrelevant.


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