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petrolbonce

December 11, 2012 3:49 PM
Last Edited 623 days ago

MotoGP » Suzuki a 'maybe' for MotoGP 2014


@TalentFan you have to remember that Honda alone of all the major teams there have ever been in the sport have previously threatened to leave because of a rule change and have followed through on that threat. Back when the FIM threatened to limit the number of cylinders and gears in each class, allegedly to make the sport cheaper and more competitive (ring any bells?) Honda threatened to leave if they did. The FIM called their bluff then and Honda walked. They may do the same again. Maybe they don't have as strong a personality as old Soichiro at the helm now, but it's still a precedent. However things don't work now like they did in the sixties. Back then the FIM had almost absolute control, now there is the GPC. Dorna, IRTA, the FIM and the MSMA are all represented on the GPC. As such Honda have considerable influence on the GPC (as do Ducati and Yamaha) through their representation by the MSMA and IRTA. Remember the representatives of these groups have to speak for their members.

petrolbonce

December 11, 2012 3:37 PM

MotoGP » 'Never say never' for Red Bull MotoGP team


"Maybe we just haven't found the right team yet." Tells you all you need to know. When you own a team you don't automatically become an expert on the sport. Look at the number of football teams who've gone backwards after being bought by people who know nothing about the game. Just because they own a team it doesn't mean that Red Bull are any different to any other team's major sponsor.

petrolbonce

December 11, 2012 3:01 PM
Last Edited 623 days ago

MotoGP » Upbeat Laverty vows to seize MotoGP chance


And here we have yet another example of Bird BS. For so long he's been talking about the team building their own chassis and even engine, but the reality instead is a chassis built by another company and the same engine. Not the in house bike he was promising. The biggest problem with Bird (and there are others) is that he runs off at the mouth without thinking about what he is saying. His problem is that he over promises and under delivers, the secret is to under promise and over deliver. If he mouthed off less and got on with the job quietly a lot of people would have a lot more respect for what he has achieved. PBMs final place in MotoGP this year was nothing to sniff at, but fell a huge distance short of what Bird promised earlier in the year. As such Ellison's position looked like a failure when clearly it wasn't.

petrolbonce

December 11, 2012 3:14 PM

MotoGP » Upbeat Laverty vows to seize MotoGP chance


(cont.) As for CRT most people weren't mouthing off early in the season, but Birdy was. Everybody else knew that with new regulations nobody knew how their bike would perform against the competition. Birdy however just seemed to assume PBM would be at the front of the CRT pack. He needs to learn that actions speak louder than words. Until he has some serious success in MotoGP he's in no position to mouth off as if he were one of the prime movers in the sport.

petrolbonce

December 11, 2012 3:08 PM
Last Edited 623 days ago

MotoGP » Upbeat Laverty vows to seize MotoGP chance


@Mark the argument that "if you can't do better you can't criticize" holds no water. Are you trying to tell me you've never criticized anybody who you haven't proved you could beat in their chosen field? Of course not, so why expect the same of others? If you can't come up with a more coherent argument than that it's best to say nowt. Actually the criticism of Bird on this forum falls one hell of a long way short of the criticism he receives on other sites. Look at Bird's background, a quick search on a few news sites should show you he's not any kind of hero. Then look at WSB. Yes what he did with Kawasaki was impressive, no argument from me there. However he talked it up far too much, to listen to him you would think that PBM were solely responsible for the performance and that Kawasaki would fall flat on their face without him. Interesting to look at those comments in the light of what Kawasaki achieved this year.

petrolbonce

December 11, 2012 2:52 PM
Last Edited 623 days ago

MotoGP » Suzuki a 'maybe' for MotoGP 2014


"The main thing is to have more competitive races. If we can do that with more manufacturers than all the better, but having competitive bikes is the key." Which argues against limiting each factory to four bikes. It wouldn't matter how many bikes any given factory entered just so long as the races are interesting. So if the three factories we have want to enter more than four bikes each and can afford to do so, why stop them? Yes I know it was strongly rumoured that the four bike rule was introduced as a sop to those teams who wanted to retain the rookie rule, but the rookie rule was bloody stupid. It had potential to actually restrict competition and excitement and only lasted for three seasons. It should have been killed off and there was no need to offer anything to those who wanted to keep it. Perhaps one good idea would be to try to encourage Suzuki and Kawasaki to come back as engine suppliers. And to get BMW, Aprillia and anybody else who could make the grade to join in too.


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