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Garcia

June 30, 2015 9:39 AM
Last Edited 27 days ago

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


Realist: Some of you still don't get it. For many spectators and fans, this uproar is about how Marquez has handled his post race interviews, not necessarily that he rides aggressively. Do you really think that people would have been up in arms after Argentina and Assen respectively if Marquez just admitted that he tried and failed..........and that he was in the wrong...........instead of blaming Rossi for both incidents? This is all about Marquez's lack of sportsmanship and inability to take responsibility for his actions.
Yes well that's the thing, you are being unfair to Marquez, he is telling the truth. "Rossi created the contact to cut the corner". That's pretty much what happened.

Garcia

June 29, 2015 12:34 PM
Last Edited 27 days ago

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


Ok we have heard P Espargaro opinion let's hear his team mate Bradley Smith: "Valentino played the circumstance perfectly to his advantage," Smith said. "He made sure Marc hit him so then he had to go across the gravel and no one can say anything. That’s finally what it is. There’s however many years of experience right there. He closed the door. He timed it perfectly so that when Marc went for it he hit him and knocked him off the track. Then you can’t say anything because Valentino said 'yeah, I’m going to make the corner'. Whether he could or not is up to interpretation but he can say 'the reason why I went straight on is because Marc hit me and I had the lead going into the chicane so I didn’t actually technically gain an advantage so I should actually win the race'." That's what I saw too, same as Smith and also Toseland. I think it was so clever, but Rossi is genious at this kind of situtation, you need riders like these to produce classic races like last saturday.

Garcia

June 29, 2015 11:42 AM
Last Edited 27 days ago

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


Vilas46: Garcia that he was very HOT and Rossi react faster for the last corner and with this he couldn t brake more to avoid hit Rossi i would had be happy because was just other hot moment on race for one last corner final lap... But Marquez was saying that Rossi creat the Crash?? Come ON i know that he miss to be in 1 place on podium but i was not expecting this words from him...
For me he is telling the truth from his perspective obviously. I know you see the incident different but what I see is Rossi saw Marquez diving in his inside and so he closed the door in front of him and they touched, ie, if rossi had wanted he could have avoided the contact, but that would mean backing off losing the position to Marquez, which of course he didn't want to do, so for me he's telling the truth, he didnt slam into the side of rossi, they touched because rossi closed up the corner, which is fair enough for me, both wanted to win and it was a great race.

Garcia

June 29, 2015 10:52 AM
Last Edited 28 days ago

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


Wink54: Banzai move by MM as usual. Gonna hurt someone someday. Mark my word.
Yawn, I've been hearing this for three years now, yet Marquez's points licence is as clean as a whistle, just like his riding has been. :) Ok obviously he is an aggressive rider, but his pass in Assen, come on, let's not be hypocritical, there are ten times worse stuff happening in every single race at the back of the grid an no one bats an eyelid. It was "a fair attempt" like race direction said, but I guess people got a fright cause they thought Rossi was going to crash but what he was doing going into the gravel was way more clever ..! I guess people like to crucify Marquez because he's fast. Pol Espargaro always been a bit jealous of Marc anyway , he's the world champion has two gp championships and is battling against Rossi and Lorenzo while Pol is struggling to beat his own team mate.

Garcia

June 30, 2015 6:12 PM
Last Edited 31 days ago

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


@Codger Rossi was in front with Marquez coming in his inside, he leaned towards Marquez front so Marquez's brushed against his side. Smith explained perfectly. One thing that gives it away also is both riders reactions after. Anyway for me it's clear and the other riders are saying the same so l know l'm not crazy, even P Espargaro and Lorenzo who are not exactly Marquez's fans are implying it. I think maybe it's you who are giving Rossi less credit than he deserves. He's old school italian rider, he has about 15 more years' experience racing against roughest riders in the past, he knows every trick in the book, knows Assen like the palm of his hand, he's a genius for coming out on top in situations like this, if someone is going to pull that off easy it's Rossi.

Garcia

June 30, 2015 9:40 AM
Last Edited 33 days ago

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


Marquez is telling the truth. Rossi created the contact to cut the corner. That's pretty much what happened. I am not blaming rossi, it was pretty genious and I hope to see more battles like this. When you have two riders pushing each other to the limit that's when you see the best in them come out, that's when you see Marquez do that last lap and close 0.5s gap in half a lap on the brakes...! that's when you see Rossi's genious brain at work and pull that 'I dont' think so' move that will last in history. Anyway I know I'm might as well be talking to the wall here but I honestly just hope that after Rossi wins this championship and I so hope he does, you guys can relax a bit and see things more objectively and stop hating riders cause right now you can't enjoy a race for fear Rossi might not win it, that's no way to watch motogp, best sport there is.

Garcia

July 01, 2015 9:40 AM
Last Edited 33 days ago

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


1972CZ250: Beside losing the race what's really bothering MM is VR played him like a fiddle and he knows it... Anyone who don't think VR had this in his head if Marky tried this move is kidding himself. He stuck in him Argentina and he stuck him here. I think he knew exactly where Marky was in Argentina. You don't survive 20 years in Motogp 111 wins and 9 WC's without guile. I loved VR after Argentina.....Imma so sorry for markah..I hope he's a ok . yeah sure....
I think in argentina it was completely Marquez's mistake, he messed up, rossi did nothing wrong. But in Assen I agree rossi did play Marquez like a fiddle, and of course he is upset becasue he was fooled, he saw "the Hand of God" give rossi a push across the gravel, lol.

Garcia

July 01, 2015 9:37 AM

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


JedPB67: Do you seriously think Rossi planned to get hit? The risk of him getting knocked off would be outrageously high
I don't think he was planning it all in his bunker the week before lol, but it's precisely because he's for the first time in how many years fighting for a championship that he's going to take risks, not crazy risks but this was very calculated, it's not like he said right I close the door completely and let's see how hard he hit's me, no. Once he saw Marquez in his inside he had two options: back off and Marquez wins. He takes 20 poitns but that's not his style specially after fighting 26 laps for the win and at the last corner. Option two, realese brakes completely, Marquez is already comitted and both go down. Not an option. He came up with a third option, he knows assen, he's an old fox, he can see the last corner in front of him, so close the door slightly, as soon as feels Marc's bike, pick it up and full throttle accros the c

Garcia

June 29, 2015 11:19 AM

MotoGP » Espargaro: Looks like anything goes on last corner...


Jem: M.M. has got used to riders giving way to his aggressive moves. Rossi has enough experience to know when he is beaten as we have seen before. But he also knows when he has the edge or is equal to an attack. This is something that Mark has yet to learn.
With this I agree, Marquez expected Rossi would back off but Rossi didn't and won. Marquez looked a bit naive in comparison with the master maybe most clever rider ever, Rossi. He is only 22 and I think it's good for him to be battling against someone like Rossi and getting good experience, he will get more seasoned in time.

Garcia

June 28, 2015 5:35 PM

MotoGP » MotoGP Race Director talks Rossi, Marquez incident


@vale4eva About empty assumptions l'm refering to so many comments here calling MM is a 'sociopath' , 'trying to deliberately take Rossi out' 'dangerous' 'wheelchair' etc, you must have read. If it wasn't you ok l apologize. About normal forum lol no Marquez fansite, you know what l mean, most posters here all they do is insult riders and other posters and generally troll around, hard to have a normal discussion. About Marquez taking it like a man, what do you mean, he saw the other rider happily cutting across the track in front of him to the finish line, it's not hard to understand why he's pissed off. I think he has a right to defend his corner. Anyway I'm glad that you don't hate Marquez, you must be one of the few here.


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