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March 17, 2014 9:20 PM

F1 » Red Bull to appeal Ricciardo exclusion


Redbull decided they were better than the FIA at measuring fuel. The FIA told them mid race they were exceeding the rules on fuel flow. RedBull ignored this advice. Disqualification is inevitable, unless FIA want to lose control of their new rule. Tolerances were installed for any questionable readings too, for any frequency malfunction, and the fuel flow meters were increased from 5 to 10 hz for this reason. Horner says that fuel measurement via injectors is also possible, BUT this method is less accurate than with the untrasonic measure. Ricciardo is unlucky to be the scapegoat here, as he drove well. However if his car ran with more fuel flow, that almost certainly kept him ahead of 2 cars at least. Redbull are in the wrong here.

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March 17, 2014 9:48 AM

F1 » Ricciardo excluded from Australian GP


Bob....RedBull fitted their own sensor, not allowed in the rules, and were asked to turn down their fuel usage rate which they didnt, and the FIA quite rightly are disqualifying them on these grounds. Both parties stated they were aware of sensor issues, but all teams used the same type of sensor. You cannot believe it is correct to allow the teams to have their own "special" sensors to do a job that should have one baseline, provided by the FIA. If RB had done as Merc, and agreed to alter their fuel flow disqualification was less likely, but in my opinion, the car would not have finished the race with different fueling........this is why they went the route they did. Also, it had provided them with race distance data now on the chassis, by running illegally high fuel rates. The RB chassis is mega, and aero wise very efficient, and once the Renault PU is sorted, they will be hard to beat. Merc and Wiliams are the ones on top just now, but Renault are nowhere, until they can become re

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March 16, 2014 8:32 PM

F1 » Ricciardo excluded from Australian GP


If you bother to read the full report, RedBull tried various metering units across the weekend. and the race fuel sensor was used in practice, changed, then put back, and finally RBull fitted there own version as they didnt trust the FIA version. They were warned during the race to reduce fuel flow as it was continually too high according to the FIA, but the team chose to ignore them. They have been excluded for consistent to high fuel rate in race trimused, plus using their own metering unit which is not homologated, and therefore illegal. I cant see how they can win an appeal, unless they have conclusive evidence from other sources that the FIA ARE PRODUCING SUBSTANDARD INACCURATE EQUIPMENT. Merc were questioned about their fuel rates, and they complied by reducing their level. A guess from this side would say that RB were using the fuel rates to get the car to run reliably, something the other Renault squads are finding hard to do, but doing so have broken the no 1 rule for t

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March 16, 2014 12:51 PM

F1 » Ricciardo excluded from Australian GP


Giveaway.......the RedBull was not 18kmh slower in the race compared to its rivals....the car would have gained extra hp ovefuelling, and then used its better aero into the corners to maintain position....overfuelling would keep the engine temps down too. Daniel might not deserve to be excluded, but no one else benifitted from the fuel dispute apart from DR and RB. Lap time wise, only Mercedes had a definite race pace advantage, whilst Ferrari were carryning a tech issue which meant they were off pace. Williams are the dark horse here, and with better luck and judgement will take the fight to the front.... Red Bull need to be taken to task too for not installing standard camera housings on their nose.....the FIA are looking at this seriously.


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