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joemagic

May 23, 2014 4:06 AM

MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


martin.mm.108:
joemagic:
martin.mm.108:
Okay how about when Marc was in moto2 on a second rate Suter. No one dominates on a Suter but he did. All the best and consistently fast teams have Kalex. Explain that?
MM is without a doubt the best of his generation... but, he ran wide at least 3 times and still made it up, during the Qatar GP he did outbrake and ran wide and he could still accelerate to retakte the inside line without giving up the position... that is no rider skill, if you slam the brakes and the acceleration is more controlled (no wheelie, or fishtailing on the corner) and powerful than the rest of the field it's the bike.
Stay on topic please. He did the same on multiple occasions on the Suter in moto2. Which is not the best bike. Explain that?
do you ride bikes?? I thought I explained myself perfectly.
I don't have to ask if you ride bikes because the answer is clear. I ride around the outside of guys On a 2003 SUZUKI TL1000R all stock except some end cans and $100 track takeoffs. They ride late model ZX10 this or trac controlled R-that. More so on bikes than cars riders can make the difference. On the same token I have been smoked by old dudes on sv650's. I bet if you put MM on my TL and me on his RC he would own me. Bottom line MM us just better. Put anyone on the same bike MM will beat them.

joemagic

May 23, 2014 3:52 AM

MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


Yearby23:
joemagic:
martin.mm.108:
Okay how about when Marc was in moto2 on a second rate Suter. No one dominates on a Suter but he did. All the best and consistently fast teams have Kalex. Explain that?
A Repsol backed Suter.... the only 1 man team in the field. The team didn't continue in Moto2 and instead moved to GP. That Repsol Suter team was made from his Repsol Derbi/KTM team when again had no teammate. Marquez has been groomed by Repsol from day 1. Also that Suter had a quickshifter too, something none of the other bikes had in Moto2, a loophole Repsol found in the rules. I'm not saying its all the bike... But he's been groomed and been given the best kit since day 1. Bradl won Moto2 a year before Marquez but didnt get a factory bike but the rookie rule was abolished again for Marquez as it was for Pedrosa and Lorenzo.
I don't care who sponsored the ride. You are missing the point you don't get groomed or rules changed because you are average(Bradl). Yes Marquez has a good bike but other people are on that bike not doing the same. Einstein calls it an equation. If the bikes are equal but the results are not something or someone is.

joemagic

May 20, 2014 4:07 AM

MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


DogOfChaos: I'm not convinced with Marquez yet. Superior rider, really? Watch the Honda closely in replays. Notice how much faster it accelerates? Notice the top speed? And yet you presume Marquez is a superior rider? Not until you put them on a level playing field would you know. They are the world's best and probably a lot closer than is apparent on screen. See the thing is, riders are affected psychologically too. The bike they're on, the marketing, the media, the pressure of the job, the publicity, the desire not to crash. All these factors weigh into the ability to perform. But if you're talking balls-out speed, I am certain they all have the capability to do it, to pull out a fast lap, transition their bodies seamlessly, to cut corners over the curb, let the suspension and electronics handle what they'd rather do themselves....no, Marquez is no superior to the rest. It's his state of mind and his REPSOL that are superior.
Okay how about when Marc was in moto2 on a second rate Suter. No one dominates on a Suter but he did. All the best and consistently fast teams have Kalex. Explain that?

joemagic

May 20, 2014 4:00 AM

MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


AussieNSW: I think everybody should take a deep breath here and just think about what we seen on Sunday,no doubt MM is a talent but that bike is something else I have worked in Avation for a very long time (flew them & fixed them) and I love to see Engineering perfection but this Honda is in a different sphere,when a rider after 2 laps is in 10th place and in a few laps he is leading the race then switches to cruze control for the rest of the race running at about 70% while every other rider is at 110% just to get a podium there is something wrong with GP racing.Most of the time I don't agree with "TalentFan"but I am now 100% with him the Electronics have now taken over any skill a rider has on the bike and made it a computer game I dont think Dorna should wait untill 2016 to bring in the new rules they should bring them in next year and hope we can see a bit of real racing because this year is over, unless Yam can come up with some miracle chassis or MM crashes or has an engine failure I cant s
There is another two factory honda's out there. Despite their sugery Marc would have sliced them up. Dani and Val are very close in points and on track. Explain how a satetilite yamaha gets on the front row and puts up a more than decent fight. The gap is not that big. MARC is making it bigger. And JL is helping it look that way. JL has been faster than Rossi since he got on that bike. This year not so. And it is simply the matter between his ears. Honestly I hate to say it but I think Marc is just so fast JL can't cope and his cloud 9 ego that has kept him doing seemingly super human things is broken. The yam has more to give believe if JL was riding at his best. But give credit where it's due Marc is riding the bike. And all the worlds resources in electronics would not get any of us within a second of him.

joemagic

May 20, 2014 2:23 PM

MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


martin.mm.108:
Okay how about when Marc was in moto2 on a second rate Suter. No one dominates on a Suter but he did. All the best and consistently fast teams have Kalex. Explain that?
MM is without a doubt the best of his generation... but, he ran wide at least 3 times and still made it up, during the Qatar GP he did outbrake and ran wide and he could still accelerate to retakte the inside line without giving up the position... that is no rider skill, if you slam the brakes and the acceleration is more controlled (no wheelie, or fishtailing on the corner) and powerful than the rest of the field it's the bike.
Stay on topic please. He did the same on multiple occasions on the Suter in moto2. Which is not the best bike. Explain that?

joemagic

May 18, 2014 9:29 PM

MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


mrfill:
JimmyTheRealOne: I see no logic in moving Lorenzo to Honda. There would be a bitter rivalry between him and Marquez. Why would a team want their riders taking points from each other? Pedrosa is an ideal no2 rider for Marquez and Honda. Lorenzo would never settle for a 'wingman' status. It would end up just like Alonso/Hamilton pairing in F1 in 2007.
From a team point of view all they want is their two bikes in #1 and #2. To them it doesnt matter who is on which bike. Quite agree about Lorenzo though. He's expensive, not a Repsol 'babe' and does not go sideways round all corners. Brilliant rider and suited to Yamaha but not really a 'fit' for Honda. @joemagic - spot on
Thank you @mrfill. These people disagreeing with my comment clearly don't see what Marc is doing in those slow mo shots. He is turning the whole bike a faction faster than anyone by dropping to near his shoulder. Spinning the rear and firing the bike out full throttle when other guys are still cruising neutral around the apex. It's unreal! Nobody gets it!

joemagic

May 18, 2014 9:49 PM

MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


Lion23:
mlo7: 5 out of 5 for Marquez! MotoGP has found her new messiah, 5 years after the Rossi dominance. This is the image they are portraying. They want to recover some of the old 'magic', even if it's artificial. Pedrosa stands no chance against Marquez, he knows his tires will not last as long as his teammates. He won't risk it for nothing. Those who think the difference between them is THAT big, knows nothing about motor racing. If Pedrosa doesn't manage to win some races in the second half, it will be obvious. He better swap bikes with Lorenzo. Casey Stoner was right about MotoGP. It has changed too much. Never thought I'd say this.
I must agree, when stoner was talking about the politics in the sport & how much things changed, i didn't understand but i see the b.s. All the last minute changes with fuel & engine limitations seem to be made just to benefit one team and there bike is the best for sure, stoner didn't even want to stay on it because he knew abou
If that's true. Stoner was the biggest benefactor from these politics. His change from Michelin to Bridgestones and 800cc ducati in 08, title. Then 2011 switch to 1000cc honda, title. I don't think Stoner would agree politics won his titles. Stoner was simply the fastest dude on the track and no amount of politics bar Michelin can take that away from him. I think shy fast Stoner didn't agree with his media obligations. But that too is just a theory because Stoner has been very coy about what specific politics.

joemagic

May 18, 2014 11:27 PM
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MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


Yearby23: ''If that's true. Stoner was the biggest benefactor from these politics. His change from Michelin to Bridgestones and 800cc ducati in 07, title. Then 2011 switch to 1000cc honda, title. I don't think Stoner would agree politics won his titles. Stoner was simply the fastest dude on the track and no amount of politics bar Michelin can take that away from him. I think shy fast Stoner didn't agree with his media obligations. But that too is just a theory because Stoner has been very coy about what specific politics. ''
JoeMagic. Stoner won the title in 2007 on Ducati with Bridgestones and Rossi/Pedrosa had Michelins... Rossi then said Stoner had a tyre advantage in 2007 and in 2008 he got Bridgestones but Lorenzo on the same bike had Michelins still... Stoner also was the first guy to win a title on Bridgestones...He didn't benefit from anything he simply was fast on that combination and Rossi jumped from Michelin to Bridgestone.

joemagic

May 18, 2014 10:37 PM

MotoGP » Rossi 'Lorenzo frustrated', Marquez 'fun is faster'


FATE: "I agree for the most part. Except Yamaha does manage more corner speed which is key at Mugello. " The Yamaha corner speed is history, the bike is night and day from last year. And to make things worse they can't develop the engine to squeeze more power because of some kind of second fiddle agreement they accepted from Honda that only comic book readers can make sense of.
Fair enough. It's not the same as last year. But it still holds an advantage in the corners. By at least 2kph most places. Another culprit is the change of tires and the master of corner speed who holds all the admiration of his fellow riders in this department, (except MM) Lorenzo is off his game. I maintain Yamaha's best races will come at high speed long corner tracks Mugello and Phillip. They will probably still lose... The new X-Men movie looks good tho lol


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