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joemagic

March 27, 2015 7:14 AM

MotoGP » Marquez: It's a good start


It's the bike, really?! Dani finished a distant 4th last year and Bradl got sacked on the factory bike. Less we remember Rossi left Honda (the bike!) and the title left with him. 2007 Stoners Championship year proved it even further. Ducati winless since he left so let's stop the "bike" stuff and give credit where it's due. Marquez will ride the snot out of anything! Even a Flat Tracker!

joemagic

January 01, 2015 4:03 PM

MotoGP » What we learned in 2014


cfsteezy: @joemagic Marc's elbow down is not a product of deep lean angle. It is yes a very deep lean but the 'lean angle' is bike/rider combo.... he hangs far off the bike and gets his body low, like elias/spies has done for years, and the bike angle isnt as drastic. Marcs angle is similar to Dani but Dani has little arms and hold his elbow in, Marc pokes his down and out. But anyway, i think Rossi needs no corner advise from crash.net readers... i think him and yamaha enginers/team are lightyears ahead of you on how tomake Rossi go around a corner faster...
Ok take the elbow out of the equation. The point is Rossi carrys less lean than all of the top 4. He is leaving potentially more speed on the table as a by product. If Rossi could go the same speeds at 45 degrees he would. More lean means more potential speed bottom line. I don't have to be a genius engineer. It's physics.

joemagic

December 31, 2014 5:02 PM

MotoGP » What we learned in 2014


I think for VR46 to really take the fight to MM he will need to develop his style even further. He needs that extra 3 or 4 more degrees of lean to carry that bit more speed and turn the bike faster for the acceleration stage of the corner. Basically he needs his elbow down on a consistent basis. If he can do this I think he can challenge for the title. I think it's a long shot but I won't rule it out that's for sure!

joemagic

January 02, 2015 7:13 PM

MotoGP » What we learned in 2014


cfsteezy: @joemagic Rossi has less lean cuz he is taller, his pendulum effect is greater so he doesnt need as much lean to corner fast. As you would say..."its physics".. We all understand your point about lean and corner speed but its not always the fastest way around a turn... there is so much more at stake than just lean...
Explain away Reddings height and lean then? The fact is Yamahas package has more lean in it than what Rossi is using. When you look at an area where Rossi can significantly improve compared to the top four in MotoGP this is a glaring shortfall. I promise you won't see one rider in MotoGP going faster with less lean than they did this year. It's progress, look at max lean 20 years ago compared to today. The goal is to go as fast as possible with as little lean angle as possible. But the more angle the faster you CAN go.

joemagic

December 31, 2014 9:19 PM

MotoGP » What we learned in 2014


Brain: Marquez is not winning on corner speed. He is almost matching the Yamaha's corner speed and the elbow down is good for style points, but his corner entry and getting the bike stood up on corner exit is where he is making time on his main competitors. Dani has two of those attributes, almost matches Yamaha's corner speed and corner exit is excellent, but his corner entry is what keeps him from being the complete rider and champion. While his diminutive size helps in some area's, i believe it hinders him in heavy braking zones. His lack of braking prowess is why he gets hung up lap after lap behind slower riders while riders like Marquez and Rossi just make a hole with superior braking skills.
Style points...his elbow dragging lean angle is the reason he gets the bike stood up faster in the corners.

joemagic

December 31, 2014 8:01 PM

MotoGP » What we learned in 2014


Joeski: PS... Rossi is much taller so when his elbow touches down he could still be 4-5 degrees less than average lean angle carried by MM...Elbow down is cosmetic and happens to be a side effect of the MM riding style... a good style..but happens because of his height and position on the bike at certain corners.. Rossi's sheer height will not allow him to "mimic" the MM style exactly... and he does not have to...what he has to do is find out what particular effect MM's riding position has on the chassis and tyres and even then they are not on the same bike so it may not apply. I would actually love to see how Toni Elias does on the new Honda because he was known to have some serious hang off with elbows down...
You are missing the point. If you think someone carrying 45 degrees of angle vs someone carrying 62 degrees of lean angle have the Same potential speed, then we cannot have an intelligent conversation. Yes Yamaha needs to improve their bike. Yes you can

joemagic

December 31, 2014 7:12 PM

MotoGP » What we learned in 2014


Joeski:
joemagic: I think for VR46 to really take the fight to MM he will need to develop his style even further. He needs that extra 3 or 4 more degrees of lean to carry that bit more speed and turn the bike faster for the acceleration stage of the corner. Basically he needs his elbow down on a consistent basis. If he can do this I think he can challenge for the title. I think it's a long shot but I won't rule it out that's for sure!
Rossi adapted his style to good effect...but what he needs is a stronger package from Yamaha... elbow down does not let the bike go faster or turn better...if you notice on many occasions JL tucks his left hand on the inside of his leg and never touches that elbow but he is known for lean angle and corner speed...I believe it is only cool looking and does not affect the pace at all...IMO
You are missing the point. Elbow down is a by product of massive lean angle. Yes you can carry the same lean angle as M


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