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Yearby23

December 23, 2014 8:29 PM

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NineTimes: @ Yeabr23 Rossi chose the less powerful, but smother engine. Also, up until 2008, Yamaha was clearly inferior to Honda and up to a certain level Ducati at certain areas. Laguna seca 2008 is a clear proof. It was only after 2009 when Yamaha managed to get closer to Honda. After 2010 Yamaha went backward until towards the end of 2014...
I don't know who 'Yeabr23' is. He left Honda because Honda claimed it was all the bike. That's why he went to Yamaha. He didn't like the way Honda valued the bike over him. He was right to leave Honda but that Yamaha wasn't as much of a dog as what it was when Biaggi had it in 2002. As Kenny Roberts said, Barros told Yamaha they needed to alter their torque curve for their engine, they did and the bike improved. Barros' advice, Furusawa's engineering and Rossi with his crew won the titles in 2004 and 2005. It's not all down to Rossi on an 'underpowered' bike.

Yearby23

December 24, 2014 1:24 AM

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NineTimes: @ yearby23... I thought you are sharper than that! Again, "fast" doesn't mean top speed.
I never said it did. I said Laguna Seca isn't a top speed oriented track which means if anything it favoured the Yamaha as its fast in acceleration and agile in handling not in top speed like the Ducati. Without realising it Ninetimes you agreed with me. Laguna suits agile bikes, not bikes with high top speed. Yamaha not Ducati.

Yearby23

December 23, 2014 7:57 PM

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RSMick Cont'd Roberts continues, "Then he goes to Yamaha. Okay, nobody remembers this, but, who rode the Yamaha the season before Rossi? Alex Barros. Remember they gave Barros an RC212V at the end of 2002 and he won three of the last four races on it. So he was very good. And Barros told Yamaha in 2003, 'Hey, you have no torque here. What you need is more power and a flatter torque curve so it has a wider powerband'. And so, when they go to build the new engine configuration, they make it with more torque, change the firing order, a wider powerband and more power. Valentino rode the bike at Malaysia and it was a lot better. So, Rossi, with a lot of effort from Yamaha and himself, gets on the Yamaha and wins the world championship."

Yearby23

December 23, 2014 7:56 PM
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RSMick. I found the quote from Kenny Roberts Jr regarding Barros. Goes back to my point originally that everything has to be right to win a WC. The Yamaha wasn't as under developed as when Biaggi rode it. Word from Kenny Roberts Jr: "Rossi is on the Honda, has it figured out and has Jeremy Burgess. Honda has the bike, crew, tires, etc. The championship is his." "Then, he is with Honda when the move to four strokes and MotoGP is made. It's (the RC211V). Honda again has the bike, crew, tires, etc. He wins."

Yearby23

December 23, 2014 6:41 PM

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TF2: Didn't Barros promptly show what he could do and clear off and win as soon as Honda let him have a 4T towards the end of that season? And didn't he then promptly get his wings clipped by Honda for schooling Repsol stars who'd spent all year on it? As has been said - bias, favouritism and 'control' of rider performance by Factories / Wealthy Powerful Sponsors is nothing new - its been going on for a very, very long time. Does that mean we accept it as inevitable? No. It just means its high time the practice got stopped IMO.
I remember he was given the 211v for the final 3 rounds and won 2 of them didn't he? Then went to Yamaha and was involved heavily in M1 development before being given a Repsol Honda bike in 2004 whilst he was badly injured and never performed well due to the injuries.

Yearby23

December 23, 2014 4:39 PM

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Guna4699 As far as I understand, last year the bike wasn't designed or developed around either Marc or Dani which meant the racing between them was closer. But since Marc came out on top and won the WC last year, Repsol Honda will tailor their bike to the defending champions riding style in order the retain the title, which they have. If they developed it around Dani this year it wouldn't have been entirely fair on Marc.

Yearby23

December 23, 2014 4:10 PM

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Codger: Yearby23.....thanks for the comment :) (You should have put your own name on your list.) I'm intrigued by the 23. Is it the year that you were born ? The number of bikes in your garage ? The number of children that you have sired ? Your IQ ? Or are you a fan of the great John Surtees who rode using that as his race number ?
Haha! Don't know how to take that one Codge, about the kids and IQ! It's the date in October I was born, just a number I've always liked and stuck with. I like this forum, but like any you're always going to get the irrational few who won't maintain a sensible conversation and go off-topic every couple of posts, then it's a lost cause trying to explain anything to them until they do it the following thread and it's tiring energy sapping cycle.

Yearby23

December 23, 2014 4:02 PM

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NineTimes: @ Yearby... As i mentioned before. you sometimes fail to find out what is related to what in every post. Back to the 2stk 4stk thing. Does 4-stk supposed to have huge advantage over 2stks? if yes, in what ways?
Yes. Although the bike is heavier it had approx 45bhp more and more torque for low end acceleration. Reference the movie 'Faster' it shows you the full statistics including the top speeds. NSR500 190mph (approx) RCV211V 205mph (approx) Watch Assen 2002. Assens not exactly a top speed circuit but Rossi stalks Barros who is on an NSR500 for about 3/4 of the race before driving past easily.


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