But anyway, you know, it didn't matter at that point, but obviously - and you know, when we put tyres on, I felt like our restarts were a little sluggish, on low air pressures I felt like we could take off good and if we could get far enough out there, the clean air was maybe enough to even it out.
Just when you lined up, regardless of what happened to Jimmie Johnson after the restart, what were your thoughts just starting with knowing that you had no new tyres compared to everybody else?
Well, I mean, Jason said he thought more people were going to take no tyres. I didn't think anybody was going to take no tyres so.
When we rolled off, I told him right away - first off, at the time, I thought in my head we had about a five percent chance of winning; if something didn't happen to the #48. But, if we would have got two tyres and came out behind the #48, unless he broke, I thought we had almost a zero percent chance of winning.
So I thought, you know, when you look at it like that, it was a great call. Circumstances helped a little bit to have the quick restarts, everybody's got their rights, and then we had another caution, and that gave us some time to cool our tyres back down and definitely got rolling faster in that second restart.
So I mean, obviously you look back right now, it's a great call. It was the only one that gave us a chance to win the race. I didn't think if we did what they did and restarted second, third, fourth or fifth, we really had a chance to win the race, barring a problem with the #48.
When you have a car that is not in your mind the class of the field, is it more satisfying, and do you derive any different pleasure from this than on a day you dominate?
That's a tough question to answer. I feel like through the years, we haven't had a lot of them where we've been off a little and ended up winning. Certainly it always feels good when you win.
I tell you, we've had a few of them this year, where you dominate and feel like you're the best car and in position to win, and you lose those, those probably hurt as much or more than - well, not as much as this feels good (Laughter).
But it's always fun to win, no matter how you can win. With everything being equal, I still thought we were a second-place car when we were at our best. There were times when we ran a little better than the #48 but I don't know what he was doing up front, if he was saving fuel or what.