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fritz while i agree with most of what you said, carl's issue with harvick isn't to do with the on-track achievements, it's to do with what harvick is like as a person, and as far as i know, like kyle busch, he comes across as a bit of a tool. that being said, i don't know them personally so i can't really say that's true. it's one of those things. you have cliques in school. this is the same deal. some drivers get along better than others and it's not necessarily a battle of good and bad but 2 people who have had a scuffle (handbags in most cases) and they don't like each other because of it.