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JJJ,no.neither were committed enough to their cause, too much hard graft like training etc when they saw it as something from a time gone by.it's not just about racing,a mere protion of it is such. Montoya left F1 before his time but is past the ability and past caring.F1 was far too serious for him, he really struggled sharing anything data wise,he wanted it all to himself but above all he struggled with his weight !! Kimi just struggled when the conditions weren't perfect,watch Alonso for someone that makes the absolute best of what they have.Kimi races primarily for the pay cheque but doesn't give of himself any time for the sponsors who pay him,his biggest negotiations were about not HAVING TO spend time with engineers and media beyond his being at the race track.Kimi so so rarely visited Marinello it was a standing joke )AND he drinks a lot,Ferrari just plain eventually 'understood him' and so booted him asap,paid him a fortune to go in fact.Attitude like an amateur 'fun driver',d