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@ snell. Many ex riders have gone on to run their own teams and to say we tar all managers with the same brush is wide of the mark. Under the circumstances of Ryan's retirement name me all of those riders that have lost a family member and then gone on to manage their own racing team with non family members riding for them? It's always tragic to lose a rider, whether that be on the roads or short circuit but to quit because its too risky and then run a team in the same environment is a touch hypocritical.