WRC » STOP PRESS: Hirvonen wins in Turkey


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rich ard

June 15, 2008 1:11 PM

ford, you won by dirty tricks. if you cannot fight fair you shouldnt participate. i seem to remember that prodrive did a similar action a few years ago and were slated for it. i thought that such action was subsequently banned by FIA, but obviously not. or maybe dave richards said they wouldnt do it again. either way such actions spoil the sport.

only me - Unregistered

June 15, 2008 1:19 PM

i supose you would rather loeb walked the championship and made it mega boring?

ford deserved to win and they lead vertually the hole rally.

well done mikko bring on the next rally

Cortez - Unregistered

June 15, 2008 2:02 PM

Most of you people forgot or don't now the nature of rallying,it is drive fast try to survive and then you deserve to win.In 1993 i think Carlos Sains did the same thing and he was revarded whit a massive time penalty.To win this year on gravel like Turkey,you nit to 5th on the first and second day and drive the metal of in the 3th day.

rich ard

June 15, 2008 4:40 PM

only me. if loeb walked the championship, it is because he is a good, tidy and fast driver. to be forced into "cleaning " the road for ford drivers to benefit is totally unfair. hirvonen was leading and the rules state that he should have been first on stages on third day. by manipulating the rule in their favour, ford removed the level playing field. they certainly did not DESERVE to win. The only saving grace is that hirvonen will now have torun first on road at opening stages of next rally.

errorxp - Unregistered

June 15, 2008 5:21 PM

the fact that some drivers are able to slow their cars down in such a way shows how uncompetitive the sport really is. i wish subaru were up to speed already.

Grant .

June 15, 2008 5:28 PM

Rich ard - I'm not sure how you can say Ford didn't deserve to win. Certainly they used tactics to take the victory - but that is not against the rules. If they hadn't done it and had lost, people would have been saying why didnt they maximise their chances and ensure that their drivers' didn't have to run first on the road on Saturday.

Also don't forget Citroen and Loeb said they would have done the same had they been in that position. And didn't Sordo do just that at the end of day 2 so he didn't run behind Henning on day 3? I do understand where you are coming from - but the real problem is the regulations. But it does make things a bit more interesting. So maybe it is not that bad...

rich ard

June 15, 2008 5:58 PM

grant, i just think that ford played dirty and outside the spirit of the rules. they should have been penalised or forced to run at their position on second last stage. if citroen did it they would also be criticised and should be penalised. citroen and loeb were talking after the event and are in effect saying that the way is open for them to do the same in future

oracle - Unregistered

June 15, 2008 6:31 PM

Ford pussys using dirty tricks. Its just not rallying if you virtually stop before the line to manipulate the rules. Tactics like this may become widespread and we'll have other drivers slowing to a pathetic crawl in order to start from a more beneficial position. Stop this silliness!

Dafydd Larcombe - Unregistered

June 15, 2008 11:29 PM

Listen !!! for all the chopsy know it alls slating Ford, they did a great job, if there is fault it is certainly the FIA once again who cant get it right with rules, at the end of each day the top 15 crews should reach into a hat and pull out a random number from 15 numbers saying where they will be on the road the following day, its the rules not Ford !!! And yes its not good for the sport but thats life, if you permit it within the rules then it will be done, Mikko and Jari Matti did a stearling job, well done guys I say !!!!!

WRC foir me - Unregistered

June 16, 2008 12:48 PM

I find myself agreeing with Dafydd again. What a refreshing change for someone else to win other than Loeb. Im eating humble pie now as i have recently said that it is almost inevitable for Loeb to win and Solberg to crash but at lats that hasnt been the case. So in footie no one has ever thrown the game by falling over holding their ankle until the "Magic Sponge" comes on when they are awarded a penalty??

I for one really enjoyed watching the coveridge this weekend. Even after Jari had a flat he still fought his way to 2nd. Well done Gents.

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