WSBK » Stunned Laverty stamps mark on WSBK

The Irishman showed remarkable race craft to defend from Biaggi in race one, before battling back to pass Melandri in race two.

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rotsa ruck - Unregistered

May 09, 2011 5:26 PM

I thought JT did an exceptional job, stellar even.........of commentating at the Assen race. Maybe he should continue to do that. Not that Steve Martin does a poor job, far from it. JT did however bring some different observations to the table and didn't screw up his commentary with a bunch inane comments about 'his' championships like another commentary announcer I've had to listen to. I'm not going to start with the 'career's over' crap but honestly one has to recognize when to step aside gracefully. Scott Russell was one of my favorites but he should have probably retired before that horrific crash at Daytona. At least JT is still healthy and relatively young too.

916 - Unregistered

May 09, 2011 10:12 PM

@ "Suzook" Did you get the top speeds from a reliable source? the Ducati top speed you quote MUST have been achieved with the benefit of a slipstream, Checa is on form, and knows the circuit, 1000cc shared by 2 heavy pistons rather than 4 light ones equals less r.p.m equals less top speed, unless it was geared for a "tow"

shamarone - Unregistered

May 09, 2011 10:55 PM

re: "It's interesting to note that the Duke reached 329kph which isn't bad going for a so called "underpowered" twin."

zook is correct 916. the xerox V12's breezed over 200 at monza back in '09. the althea bikes ARE the ex-xerox bikes... or at least all the kit save for a fresh engine or 3 added to the rotation.

shamarone - Unregistered

May 09, 2011 11:29 PM

re: "I'm not going to start with the 'career's over' crap but honestly one has to recognize when to step aside gracefully."

JT's career's not over by a long-shot. he does however unfortunately have a limited riding style which narrows down the bikes on which he'd be effective. he's a "point and shoot" superbiker. he needs a high-torque platform not high corner speed like the gutless 800's of grandprix. the bmw "screamer" may as well be a 500 2-stroke for all intents and purposes. it's
the peakiest of all bikes on the grid. he'll never get on with it. he would do well to hang around and keep check collecting until such time the next gen V12's arrive, then he can sod off the beemer.

shamarone - Unregistered

May 09, 2011 11:45 PM

re: "Yamaha 333kph"

now regarding trap speeds, THIS is the number i find most interesting/revealing. it seems noale wasn't the only one's who brought a "monza" spec engine to the gunfight. now if aprilia brought a monza...? then yam damn sure brought a "grandprix". with the "big nose" cross section that is the R1, combined with the massive power sapping balancer, i wouldn't be surprised if lavertys bike dyno'd out even MORE than max's V4. :-o to push that (broadside) brick up to just shy of 207, that thing would have to be putting out like 240-260 at the crank...? the narrow 1198 and RSV combined with their more efficient configurations woudn't need nearly that much. we KNOW the long stroke twin can't make that.


May 10, 2011 12:23 AM
Last Edited 1817 days ago

"JT's problem was (and is) JT, not the bike.
Posted by 999"

JT spent the previous 2 yrs learning how to ride a GP prototype and therefore had to change his style completely in order to do that which if you look at his first year in GPs he did a bloody good job of.The first year of bridgestone tyre development didn't work for him but he returned to WSB last year riding a bike that didn't handle very well and had to re-learn how to ride it like a superbike and not a GP machine.Bit of a tall order when you think about it logically.How many times does Toseland usually crash during an entire season ? Not many,don't think he crashed out of any races during his final GP year.He's having a run of bad luck lately but unless he actually retires he's still in with a chance of turning it around.There are plenty of riders in WSB that have long passed there sale by date but keep going and have not achieved half of what JT has,yet you guys don't slag them off? I guess you can't educate sh1te !

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

May 10, 2011 6:00 AM

That is a very well thought out response. My theory is, and it might be complete crap, but guys like Kevin Schwantz, John Kocinski, and Troy Bayliss they walked away. They did so while they still could. Guys like Rainey, Doohan and Fogarty experienced horrific injuries before they removed themselves from the sport. That's what I mean by stepping aside gracefully. Is Toseland's career at that point yet? Only he can answer that. He's won the title twice on two different makes. The only other rider to do so is Corser. What else does he have left to prove? He's not the first guy to go from WSBK to not cutting it in MotoGP. That list is pretty long and includes Gobert, Corser and Scott Russell. He was quite good commentating and has a future in that if he wants.

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