WSBK » KTM hints at WSBK appearance in 2012

The Austrian manufacturer says it is taking the next development step after winning its first domestic Superbike title in Germany.

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jimmy - Unregistered

October 07, 2011 10:13 PM

I like this but WSBK needs to go back to the basics, back to cheaper bikes and fairer rules. A minimum amount of 'real' privateer bikes does not show a good health of the series IMHO. Just take a bike from a shop, put racing tyres and exhaust on it, some stickers and go racing. It won't be as fast as MotoGP but maybe we'll see full grid and real superbike racing.

pp916 - Unregistered

October 08, 2011 10:15 AM

What you've described there Jimmy already exists, its called Superstock and is a very healthy class in itself with a grid full to bursting. And yes there is an element of factory support in that to.
And would you like to expand on 'fairer rules'?

Dice - Unregistered

October 08, 2011 11:07 AM

@ Jimmy

16 bikes, from 7 manufacturers, representing 4 different engine philosophies ... all qualifying within a second of each other.
How much fairer do you want the rules?

As for privateer bikes ... at the last race there were just 5 full factory bikes on the grid - 1 Aprilia 2 Yamahas, & 2 BMW's.
You will never stop factories supporting successful teams, but that is their reward for doing a good job.

wsbk_is_the_real - Unregistered

October 08, 2011 1:12 PM

@jimmy, thats called superstock idiot. SBK is highly modified race bikes. BHPs equal to motogp bikes but they are real bikes meant for road racing not just racing virtual bikes like motogp bikes. just being faster doesnt matter. What matters it we are watching racing among bikes we can own. Real bikes. U should watch drag racing that will be fastest I guess. Remember my name u sick puppet :P

Euro - Unregistered

October 08, 2011 8:07 PM

KTM did BSB last year with James East, Redline RAcing RC8s, Lowes had a run out on one..good team set up ..but no cigar! They would have to do something expensive/special to even FP1 qual. in WSBK.


October 09, 2011 2:03 AM

re: "Though it struggled on the Superstock stage, KTM was recently crowned IDM Superbike Champion with the experienced Martin Bauer on the machine, success that is prompting it to consider graduating to World Superbikes as early as 2012."

hey, here's an idea...! maybe they should graduate BACK to wstk first and sort what went wrong before they're seen around the globe getting handed their a$$e$ in wsbk on live TV...?

a crazy thought this, but ya know me i'm kooky. :(


October 09, 2011 2:08 AM

re: "We just need Suzuki to put some cash into their effort and the series will be without doubt the best there is."

S1 will begin holding his breath for this to happen precisely 10 seconds after hitting the "submit comment" button.


Dice - Unregistered

October 09, 2011 11:32 AM

@ Shamrone

A) there is no WSTK series.

B) STK rules are far too limiting.
If you look at the results this year, you need to be on a Ducati 1098R or a BMW S1000RR. If your road going production bike can't compete with those, the rules don't allow you leeway to compete on an even footing.
WSBK rules allow you to start with a superbike production model as a base, but make enough changes to have a competitive race bike.


October 10, 2011 3:41 AM

re: "If your road going production bike can't compete with those, the rules don't allow you leeway to compete on an even footing."

therein lies the point. get back to measuring yourself in WSTK in an "as homologated" state. and this time do it with the full 1200cc bike. for whatever reason they shot low on the first model and that's the one they were using during their initial foray 3-4 years ago. it was only 1190 in name. the LC8 engine has since been reworked. forget the BMW, that thing's going nowhere until IT re-homologates. obviously you're not familiar with the FIM rules regarding twins either. running in the top class of WSBK affords them NOTHING. so, what that means is, if you're not measuring up against the gold standard of V2's (1198R) in WSTK...? you damn sure aren't going to measure up because you're running in WSBK. you should know that. now get it together.

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