WSBK » Checa ponders heat, weight and speed disparity


Carlos Checa qualifies third but is worried his bike's 6kg weight gain will have determining effect on his victory chances at Phillip Island.

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Southerner

February 25, 2012 3:28 PM

Okay. I'll be the first to say it. The mass penalty for the twins sucks big time. I hope the easier nature of the power delivery plays to them tire wise.
Crikey,they had to ride around a 30km/hr speed deficit at Monza last year. Now 15 at PI. 1200cc twin advantage my A**.

Steve929

February 25, 2012 3:54 PM

Awww. That's precious. Checa is complaining about the rules.

The same ones that are tweaked to have Twins (Ducati) remain competitive.
The same ones that have allowed Twins to win 16 of 23 Titles.
The same ones that have allowed 16 of 23 Ducati Manufacturing Titles.
The same ones that allow 1198 displacement but let's con everybody by calling it the machine a 1098.

Yzr-M1 - Unregistered

February 25, 2012 4:06 PM

well if Ducati has no advantage, what about Kawasaki.(not 2012)
if 1200cc aint no advantage, kawa's 1000cc is???
750cc vs 999cc
1000cc vs 1200cc
and form 2013
1000cc vs 1200cc 12.000rpm superquadrato.
KTM pushes the 1190cc up to 14.000 rpm with engine testing.
ducati should build a 1000cc v2 real superquadrato that can rev the same as a 1000cc l4.
in stockform the rsv4 makes shifts at 12.000 because it builds off power rapitly afterthat.

i say 1000cc = 1000cc

and not threatning to leave for 200cc

Southerner

February 25, 2012 4:23 PM

No problem with 1000cc = 1000cc. All they have to do is ban twins. Maybe the answer is for all to commit to 1000cc transverse 4's in SBK. Surely that will level the playing field. By the way..Triumph need to get their scates on with transverse 4 technology.
Last time I checked, their 75cc capacity advantage in SS helped them like a hole in the head.
Maybe a control transverse 4 1000cc engine layout for SBK is paramount. Like Moto 2,it throws up great racing,but from a technical angle, well...Boring :)

Pizdoff - Unregistered

February 25, 2012 5:29 PM

To be fair I think Checa genuinely is concerned, so, professional that he is he's getting his - well, not quite excuses really, more sort of valid reasons why he might not win - out in advance in case they're needed.

Of course what he's doing is emphasising the negatives aspects of it. (We're well down on top end). And glossing over the advantages (With 200 more ccs & a vee twin configuration we've a truck load of torque more than anyone else and a drive pulse pattern which gives great grip and is tyre kindly).

But anyone else with two brain cells to rub together who was riding Ducati's flag-ship with all the pressure that goes with that would say just what old Carlos is saying.
Wouldn't you?

Sparky62 - Unregistered

February 25, 2012 6:59 PM

One bike rule...so you do not want to be stuck waiting for your dropped bike to be push started. So all manufacturers, except Kawasaki, have added a starter motor to their bikes. This makes up part of the extra 6KG. The extra weight shouldnt affect the handling of the Ducati either since they have simply replaced the very expensive alloy exhaust with the original steel one. This has distributed the weight fairly evenly.

Tetley

February 25, 2012 8:42 PM

If I had more speed, if I had less speed - if I had more weight, if I had less weight - if I had 200cc more, if I had 200cc less , if the straights were longer - if the straights were shorter - if they took the riders weight into consideration, if they had to shake a six when the lights went out before they could slot it into gear ...
Jeez! Allow me 3 "if's" and I would win the bloody Championship myself on an 883cc Harley twin!
They all know the rules, so what's the point of "what if's"?
( n.b. I don't have an 883cc Harley twin. )

Steve929

February 25, 2012 9:32 PM

@Gixxer
Please just review the statistics and they are posted again for your convenience with a few add on comments.
Really, without bias and hurling insults, please summarize for us how this equalization formula is working out.

Twins (Ducati x 14 and Honda RC51 x 2) have won 16 of 23 Titles.
Ducati have won 16 of 23 (70%) Manufacturing Titles. This is 1 Manufacturer against all the others.

Ducati results
1st place 14 times
2nd place 4 times
3rd place 2 times
4th place 2 times
6th place 1 time (Bayliss had a terrible year and missed 3 events (6 races) and Retired from 6 others)

So Ducati, 1 Manufacture, has 'podiumed' 20 of 23 times with 1st place finishes heavily weighted.

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