WSBK » June date scheduled for Checa Panigale test

'The Panigale is a different bike and the feel is different too, so we do not want to take Carlos' concentration from the championship' - Ernesto Marinelli

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April 12, 2012 11:06 AM

Can anybody explain to me why ducati is still allowed 200cc more than the inline 4s. Honda built the sp1 to compete with ducati when it was 750 4s vs 1000 twins so why not make it 1000cc of any configuration you like? And if ducati can't make a competitive bike without a capacity advantage over the rest then that's their problem.

papi - Unregistered

April 12, 2012 11:30 AM

Twins make less power than equal capacity fours. The Honda SP1 had the same capacity "advantage" as the Ducati when it was racing against it, as did the Aprilia. Neither achieved the success of the Duke but they could have.


April 12, 2012 11:45 AM

@ papa
I could be wrong but did the sp1 not win the title in its 1st year and was only dropped in favour of the fireblade when 4 cylinder capacity was raised to 1000cc. The ducati 999 was still a competitive bike against the 4s but they complained that it was too expensive to make it competitive, again that's their problem, if they're not happy they should build a bike to suit the rules not chuck the toys out the pram until the rules favour them.

Sick Cylinder - Unregistered

April 12, 2012 11:51 AM

@realfan - We did have a period when both the 4's and twins were 1000cc, but the twins were allowed extra tuning - it became prohibitively expensive to campaign a twin hence 1200cc was agreed.

With news that Max Biaggi used 28 Aprilia engines last season it sounds like it is now getting too expensive to campaign a 4 cylinder bike!

The Ducati WSBK race programme is intended to help market the road bikes which are also twins. Some people may feel it would be no great loss if Ducati stopped racing in WSBK, but part of the reason for their success is that they are the only factory to have consistently invested in WSBK racing since the start of the series. The Jap manufacturers tend to splash the cash every few years when they are pushing a new model, then cut their budgets or pull out.


April 12, 2012 12:05 PM

@ sick cylinder
A big part of their success is also down to the fact that they have nearly always had a capacity advantage. There have been years that it might have been as well calling it the world ducati championships because there were so many of them. The twins may be down on power compared to similar sized fours but they make up for it in other areas, you just have to look at tyre wear at the end of a race and you'll see a huge advantage for the ducati (pointless the 4s having more power if they can't use it)

Sick Cylinder - Unregistered

April 12, 2012 12:07 PM

I don't want to see rules which favour Ducati, but I also don't want to see them without a competitive bike to campaign as they have been a mainstay and great supporter of the series.

If we look at the last few seasons:
Spies - Yamaha 2009
Biaggi - Aprilia 2010
Checa - Ducati 2011

The results have been pretty even and the deciding factor in winning the championship over the last few years has been the oustanding rider on board.

Re the RC51 Honda twin winning in its first year, great achievemnet, but don't forget that Fogarty retired through injury in 2000 and Ducati went through a spate of stand-in riders before eventually picking Bayliss.

Sick Cylinder - Unregistered

April 12, 2012 12:13 PM

Whatever happens with the rules we need some big cost savings because 28 engines a season is getting ridiculous.

We know they are switching to aluminium wheels in a road size instaed of MotoGP style wheels in 2013, but the latest rumours I have heard are to introduce two endurance type rounds per season with pit stops!

mysticmeg - Unregistered

April 12, 2012 12:25 PM

ahh sick,pit stop for two rounds,that would be cool for me, a bit of the old tt drama thrown in,b interesting, do they fill to the neck,and go for a splash and dash,or two half full tanks for weight saving,a new tyre or not,be alright that for a couple of races only.

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