WSBK » Furious Effenbert Liberty team slams WSBK


Effenbert Liberty releases an extraordinary statement in which it slams the World Superbike Championship and its organisers.

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marikson - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 11:19 AM

2) It's expected that some riders (those with more achievements or more experienced, let's say) would be more influencing than others but this shouldn't generate unequal conditions between them, but should only look for solving relevant issues (in cancelling the first monza race I don't think that the organisers assured themselves about meeting this request, instead it looked that some riders are more equal then the others).
3) Ok, Monza is a fast track that dries unequaly due to the trees around it and this makes it particular dangerous racing in the wet than do something about this issue (thouh I remember other bike races in a wet monza track that did not look more dangerous that other wet bike race).

Umbrella man - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 11:23 AM

You ride to the conditions and your ability. Lap times were several seconds down on lap record because of the damp conditions and that is fine.
If certain riders felt it was too dangerous to race then why did they line up on the grid, after the warm up lap they should have ridden straight into the pits and parked their bikes!
Instead they used their influence to stop one then delay another.
Another topic on here has Pirelli's anger at being ignored in their advice about tyres, none of the teams using the intermediates!
Well done Effenbert Liberty Team.

marikson - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 11:25 AM

4) If what Pirelli said about the wet front and rear intermediate combination in their post race statement it's true (and the SSP race kind of speaks in their favour) then the decision to cancel (instead of postponing) the first race and that of not restarting the second race look suspicious and highly unprofessional to me. And it proves that some riders are 'more equal' than others.
That's why I believe that the main issue is one that concern the regulations of this class. Don't get me wrong, I love superbikes, maybe more than Moto gp because it more entertaining, more even balanced, but there are some serious regulation issues.

marikson - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 11:33 AM

1) Why didn't the organisers re-run the first race on monday (Moto GP did this in Qatar some years ago, 2009 I think)?
2) Why didn't they cut short the SSP and the 2nd SBK race by 3 or 4 laps so that they run the race at 2/3 of it and sneak in the 1st sbk reace (I mean, keep the order of the races but delay them and cut each race a bit short, to it's 2/3)?
3) Or they could insert a 3rd race at a later venue as they do in BSB.
4) Why didn't the organisers restart the 2nd race? They had only 9 laps to run, the conditions were ok for a wet-front and an intermmediate-rear, tyre combination which, acording to Pirelli, would have been the proper one?

marikson - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 11:40 AM

And last but not least: why didn't the organisers start the 1st race under safety car, then let the riders change bike or tires after the first lap and then go for the race? I agree that at a certain moment the conditions during what could have been the 1st race looked dangerous but that was only around 12.40 and up to that point we could have had a half wet race like other wet races. I not sure if in SBK there is a rule like the one in MotoGP concerning a wet race, but if there is not I think one is needed. It would have solved a lot of problems that this round revealed and would have done a great deal of good for World SBK racing. Therefore I think that the Effenbert Ducatti Team has a point and that the managing team of SBK must tackle these issues.

Sasha

May 07, 2012 12:33 PM

@marikson Because the rules only allow one bike per rider. And changing front and back tires without the quickchange systems from endurance racing takes a couple of minutes. Specially the front.

Also 1st race at 12.40 had a completely flooded backstretch where you'd aquaplane like mad even on rain tires.

Sasha

May 07, 2012 12:43 PM

You think riders are completely stupid? If all ignore the Pirelli advice for intermediates. Who is wrong then? The riders, including a couple of WSBK and BSB champions, who have been on the track. Or the Pirelli boys who sit behind their computer screens and claim that their computer simulation thinks the intermediate is better. What the F is Pirelli thinking? Slap in the face of all the riders.
They brought old wet tires, up to 5 years old. And those were incapable of dealing with the situation. While their inters were not good enough for the wet highspeed corners.

Blame the crap schedule instead. Assen in April is always a disaster. And now this crap in spring at Monza. Do it in the summer or late summer. Go race in sime dessert or at the other side of the world in the spring.

Sasha

May 07, 2012 12:46 PM

And after the superpole fiasco with rain tires from 2008 falling apart, who would trust Pirelli any longer? Trying to get rid of their old stock and putting riders at danger. Madness.

RSMick

May 07, 2012 12:53 PM

Misano 1989, 500gp

The factory riders decided that it was too dangerous to race because of standing water so left the grid, leaving the privateers on the equivelant of CRT bikes (500RS,RG and the lovely Fior, yes they have been around and been lapped for years)on the grid to complete the race. Chilli won (only factory bike), Buckmaster 2nd, Rudroff 3rd. This gave privateers much needed points and more important funds.

RSMick

May 07, 2012 12:57 PM

Markinson
WSB no longer has the flag to flag racing because they are only supposed to have 1 bike (right). So this makes flag to flag with swapping bikes impossible, they copied GP but have been very lucky and never had to use it.
With GP considering going back to 1 bike, they did it in around 97, they should look at this and scrap even the thought of it, it doesn't save any money.

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