WSBK » Furious Effenbert Liberty team slams WSBK

Effenbert Liberty releases an extraordinary statement in which it slams the World Superbike Championship and its organisers.

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May 07, 2012 1:32 PM

Pirelli were WRONG to bring out-dated tyres. Riders and Teams were WRONG to ignore Pirelli's advice, as it now seems that the Pirelli technicians at the track were RIGHT in trying to steer tyre choice away from the out-of-date wets which their factory bosses had sent. The Organisers were WRONG to allow a few riders to delay the start of the second race. Those few riders were WRONG to delay the race, they had done two warm-up laps and should not have formed on the grid if they thought it not safe to race. However, this combination of circumstances would have been impossible to predict, and it was RIGHT that safety was considered above all else.
Effenburt, and Sylvain in particular, were robbed of their opportunity to capitalise on their achievement in earning pole position. You can't just shrug something like this off without protesting at the circumstances.
Everyone here on Crash would have been “Effin, Bert!” under those circumstances.

trent - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 3:38 PM
Last Edited 1374 days ago

read it again everybody
"Nice to see a small team making a noise. There was no reason at all to delay race 2 from the grid. Guys who are too old for GP and want to swan around in Sbk have to man up occasionally and race in the wet. Brits all over the podium shows a depth that comes from BSB etc running races rather than running away from a bit of rain"
we said rovert - agree with every word .

bliz - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 5:09 PM

Yah, but it would irresponsible to ignore two thirds of the grid when they put their hand up after the warm up laps. At the end of the day, the riders MUST have the final say--and it should be a majority. Effenbert is elluding that it's not a majority thing, but they need to be more clear because what I saw on the grid seems to contradict that.


May 07, 2012 5:49 PM

@oh no theyre not
I would like to see you go out and compete at those speeds in those conditions on tyres that were 4 years old. Everything has moved on since then. Pirrelli get a good return for been exclusive suppliers so they should put in the development and supply a product fit for purpose.

oh no theyre not - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 7:55 PM

locks. My point was that 4 year old tyres are perfectly ok to use and that freshly made ones would still have fallen to bits if they were of the same design. The fact they were four years old tells you that development on these wets hasn't actually moved on, at least from a tread point of view. I'm sure the teams and riders would notice a change in pattern.


May 07, 2012 8:31 PM

re: "the team would ultimately be prevented from taking advantage after the first race was cancelled on safety grounds, while Guintoli's bike would cut out on the second running of the warm-up for a race"

it happens. whaddaya gonna do...? see you in blighty.

dick craven - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 10:15 PM

the bikes have got more power than most riders can use
. hence the reliance on traction control & other electronics . get rid of the electronics ,put it back into the riders ability ,bit less power? tyres might do a race. how many times are races lost with tyres breaking up. are the tyres not up to the job? it would have been a better race with guintoli in it


May 08, 2012 12:27 AM

Just to play Devils advocate

I don't know how long this has been the case or even if it is now standard for all international races but in WSBK it is not the rider that is in the lead who decides if a race should be stopped on safety grounds.

The system used in WSBK is that by a random lottery a number of riders ( I think it is 4 ) are nominated as safety representatives.This happens every race and not for the whole season. If the majority of these nominated riders put their hands up to signal the race is then red flagged. If the majority of these nominated riders object before the race is underway it does not start.

trent - Unregistered

May 08, 2012 2:18 AM

as my last message regarding the quality of wsb riders was moderated i will temper the tone of this text . my question relates to british superbikes . oulton park - pirelli tyres - wet weather - no complaints - no problems . strange isnt it !!! . answer - one series contested by real men , the other by pre-madonna , over hyped , moptogp cast-off's with not a lot of " gumption " ( moderated !!! ) . also strange that one series is run to full houses - bikes covered with sponsors with proper media coverage and the other is dying on its mis-managed feet with empty tracks and not a sponsor in sight .

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