WSBK » Denning: MotoGP, WSBK need more defined roles

Crescent Racing team principal Paul Denning reflects on the current similarities between the World Superbike Championship and MotoGP.

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jimmy - Unregistered

July 18, 2012 12:53 PM

aeaventures: Why should WSBK conform to MotoGP's misery? The WSBK formula works so far. Yeah, cut spending would be nice but it's a STUPID thing to say that the SBK class should adapt something like superstock rules.

Stavros - Unregistered

July 18, 2012 1:18 PM

WSBK is not as expensive as GP, but its still FAR more expensive than a production based class should be or needs to be. Banning GP spec aftermarket ECU's in WSBK should happen tomorrow.

J - Unregistered

July 18, 2012 5:24 PM

The reality is that WSBK shouldn't change because they need 'roles'. WSBK is by far a better product at the moment, with multiple manufacturers, teams, and riders fighting every race. It's MotoGP that needs to reinvent themselves.

They're running into the same situation that F1 is running into. How do you balance displaying top level technology while putting on a show, and making it cheaper for all those involved? Much of the issue also lies in the fact that motorcycles have a much lower ceiling of potential then cars do. Where a production based car would be seconds/minutes off an F1 car on the same course, a World Superbike is only a few seconds off a MotoGP bike on the same course.

So, it's MotoGP that really needs to figure out how to set themselves apart and maintain themselves as the "World Championship", all while making manufacturers, sponsors, teams and fans happy.

CRT probably isn't an answer, but an more an interesting experiment (with some potential direction).

J - Unregistered

July 18, 2012 5:30 PM

Having manufacturers supply engines to chassis builders would be one way to help the 'show' but doesn't make it cheaper to for teams or manufacturers. Having all the teams go to CRT type rules makes things cheaper, may improve the show but does not really showcase top technology. Going the full prototype route will showcase the latest technology, but will kill the show with only 12 bikes on the grid since it will be too expensive for private teams without satellite deals to participate.

So MotoGP, you have "Good", "Fast" and "Cheap", but you only get to pick two.


July 18, 2012 6:56 PM

Suzuki complaining about what teams spend to race..well that's what you do if you want to win and winning sells bikes...there running what is pretty much the same bike sence 2009 and the results havnt improved..that should tell them something!


July 18, 2012 9:54 PM
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I wish I had WSB tinted glasses!
Full grids, there is supposed to be 36 on a WSB grid. Poor TV coverage and audiences and very poorly attended events, they and their loyal just won't admit it. WSS is a joke 2 seconds between 1st and 5th or 6th and 8 seconds between last, and people call CRT!

Dennings team is what WSB was created for, independant importer teams with tuned production bikes. Not prototyped versions of the streetbikes. BMW already announced they are spending as much as they would in Motogp, they were complaining last year that it was costing them GP budget to retool the production line over and over to get the bike homologated.
Kawasaki are spending their GP budget in WSB as are Aprilia and Aprilia engines less than a quarter of the time a GP one does.
They say that having limited engines in WSB is more expensive, so why are they doing it in WSS, WSSTK abd European stock?

Rocky - Unregistered

July 18, 2012 11:50 PM

Suzuki threw the bank at the Yoshimura team when Mladin and Spies were team mates and these 2 were untouchable.

Now suzuki is also complaining of the level of technology Josh Hayes' yamaha has.

Hypocrites...Just race and STFU.


July 19, 2012 12:30 AM

I think SBK has done nothing but a brilliant job for quite some time now, that's why there are a plethora of factories in it to win it. MotoGP is a complete mess and almost seems it's from an alternate universe with all of its whining and pillow-punching between the governing body and manufacturers. From what I can tell it comes down to the men running each respective series, Flammini come off as a suave genius while Ezpeleta has always seemed out of touch to me.


July 19, 2012 1:14 PM

I agree that WSBK should move closer to STK rules.
A STK bike is maybe 30,000 GBP, a WSBK is more like 120,000GBP- but the speed difference is negligible.

200BHP is plenty for a production bike if it's only running a standard ECU and basic TC package.
Retain stock frame & swing arm, allow lightweight wheels, uprated suspension and brakes.
No carbon bodywork, minor engine work only- polishing, porting, raised compression. Standard cams, rods, pistons.
Superbike slicks.
Much cheaper, not much slower and a privateer would have almost the same as the factory.

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