WSBK » 2011 data little use for Checa in 2012


Checa: It's difficult because we usually use the data from the previous year's race but, as we saw in Germany, last year we were going a lot better while this year we're struggling...

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Johan Mulder

September 19, 2012 8:58 AM

Yawn... same complaints over and over again...

Sure it's frustrating wenn people pass you on the (long) straights, but you don't ever hear them complain about the massive torque difference between the 2 and 4-cylinders.
The Ducati catapults itself out of corners, especially the slower ones. You want topspeed? Buy/lease/build a 1000cc 4-cylinder!

Oli - Unregistered

September 19, 2012 9:27 AM

I don't fully understand. Checa is on the same kit as last year, so either he is doing the same times as last year but everyone else has got quicker (makes sense as the 1198 is not being developed), or else he has got slower.

If he is going slower on the same kit then surely going back to last year's settings make sense? I'm not aware of any major changes in tyres (such as when MotoGP went to the control tyre at the end of 08 and everyone went 2 secs slower) that would make the old settings irrelevant.

If he is doing the same times then surely last year's settings are relevant?

Doesn't make sense to me.

Nick636

September 19, 2012 9:33 AM

Oli

In all fairness, they have added 6kg to the bike. (Which, on a race bike, is a lot)
But I can't see that being a huge factor as most of the other manufacturers added starter motors to their bikes after the 1 bike rule was imposed. (CRAP IDEA (The 1 bike rule that is))

I think the two (that I remember) big crashes he's had this year might have knocked him a bit. He started in PI really quick...

ellis - Unregistered

September 19, 2012 9:43 AM

I understand that the 1198 has no chance with its power disadvantage, but i am very confused why this alters the data or makes it useless. But checa defo knows a lot more than me, but it does sound like moaning. Last year he won the title because he was the best over the hole year, he dont think he had best bike. So surely just ride the wheels off it and se where you end up.

anon 1 - Unregistered

September 19, 2012 10:59 AM

@Nick636 - Where did you read that WSBK teams are running starter engines? Where is the battery then? Why do they need the starter?
There is not a massive torque difference between 4's and 2's. The Yamaha had the special crank and the V4's have quite a nice torque. There is a smoother curve on the 2's.
6kgs on an underpowered bike is huge. On a long straight the Ducati is 40Km/h slower than a Aprilia/BMW. On a shorter 20Km/h. There is no way that Checa can make up that gap on brakes/corner speed while he is acrrying 6Kg extra.
In MotoGP Honda had to carry 4Kg extra and they got chatter. That's why 6kgs makes last year data useless.

Johan Mulder

September 19, 2012 11:24 AM
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A 40km/h difference? Where would that be? Daytona oval?

Some random results:

Phillip Island - massive straight.
Race 2:
Checa: 311,6 (Winner!!, - no slipstream!)
Biaggi: 324,6
Haslam: 321,8

Monza - massive straight
Race (a bit sh*tty, i know)
Checa: 308,2
Biaggi: 324,7
Sykes : 315,2 (winner!)
Haslam: 318,3

Moscow - medium straight
Race 2
Checa: 300,8
Melandri: 315,1
Sykes: 313,3

In 2011:
Philip Island:
Checa: 301
Biaggi 318.

The difference in topspeed got smaller in 2012
WC 2011: Checa!

916 - Unregistered

September 19, 2012 11:59 AM

its not the weight that is slowing the bike down it is just that engine development has stopped and the bike is just not as powerful anymore. The ducat is heavily restricted by airflow. People shouldnt slag them of sow much as they contribute a lot to the series

Nick636

September 19, 2012 12:01 PM

@ anon 1

At the first race of the season the commentators had quite a long talk about the started motor. It also has a very small battery, so only enough power for one start. They did this for the 1-bike rule, if they drop the bike on the formation lap or stall on the grid, they can restart, whereas they could've had the second bike waiting in the pits before.

ellis - Unregistered

September 19, 2012 1:06 PM

The power output of the engines hasnt changes since the 999, its just that now they dont use 2 engines a weekend, i have also read thet checa has no interest in the 1199

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