WSBK » Pit stops planned for World Superbikes


"I think the biggest change will be the possibility to make pit stops to avoid stopping the race for the rain" - Paolo Flammini.

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Nick636

October 09, 2012 1:48 PM

Stephen

How can you say for sure it will only be in the wet? What stops these guys making it compulsory to make a stop? And if it is for the wet only, the 2-bike rule is simply SIMPLER, AND SAFER!!! As so many others have said, sure, chuck a wet tyre on a dry setup. It will still get NO traction due to the suspension being too hard, people will have heavy falls due to brake setup which will also be too hard, and will take way too much time. You'll probably find, if Pirelli bring better intermediate tyres, guys who choose to stay on those will be MILES away because the guys who stopped for wets won't have a setup to chase them down in the rain. In short, 2 bikes, 2 setups, NO RED FLAGS (JUST LIKE LAST YEAR) and guys can pull in and get out again!

Stephen - Unregistered

October 09, 2012 2:16 PM

@Nicky636
I am sure of that because,as I said, changing for fresher rubber during a race would cost way too much time. WSBK races are approx 20 laps long, if you changes tires mid race, you'd lose something like 30-40 seconds, maybe more. That leaves you with 10 laps to make up the lost ground, meaning you'd need to lap 3 to 4 seconds a lap quicker. And thats only to get back to the position you were before the pitstop.
The tires don't lose 4s/lap by the end of the races, so pitstops are just not an option.

Stephen - Unregistered

October 09, 2012 2:21 PM

But I agree, having a second bike is the best option. The single bike rule is stupid. Teams have all the necessary parts for a second bike in their trucks behind the pits anyway, they just aren't put together.

conrod - Unregistered

October 09, 2012 2:31 PM

In short this would ruin this championship.
The only change, if they want a change, is to have the two bike rule.
Tinkering with rules etc does in my opinion not achieve a positive objective.

RSMick

October 09, 2012 2:38 PM

They were on about having a single race earlier in the year thus forcing pit stops.
Everyone in the paddock thought it crazy as the cost of quick change hubs and equipment will strain their already tight budgets. Let the quickest rider win rather than keep manufacturing the race.
The 2 bike and swapover works just fine with no extra cost.

Nick636

October 09, 2012 2:41 PM

Stephen

So we're basically saying the same thing... But IF they made pit stops compulsory for every race, you wouldn't lose that much time because everyone else would have to stop too. Except it would benefit Ducati with the single sided swingarm,.

In short, STUPID IDEA, is there an official blog we can post on to beg them NOT to do this?

pistonpete - Unregistered

October 09, 2012 2:45 PM

This is an EXTREMELY BAD IDEA!!!

The ONLY way to make the stops quickly enough and safely enough would be to have a fully set up spare bike waiting in pit-lane, as is done in MotoGp.

As we don't have the spare bike active in WSBK anymore, there is no practical way to do this.
The changes required on almost all circuits include tyres, fork springs, rear shock spring, preload and damper settings, and a different traction control and engine braking map.
On some bikes/circuit combinations we need different sized brake discs too. The time/risk requirements can only safely be met be already having a spare bike ready and waiting, or by making a full race stop ala red flag/ restart format.

I hope they make their decision very wisely. These are motorbikes without full carbon safety cells. We dont need any more riders hurt by stupid rules.
If the scheduling is so important, then reduce the start grid format in wet conditions, or bring back the 2 bike rule.
just my 2 cents worth

Wardy - Unregistered

October 09, 2012 3:17 PM

As others have said this is dumb from being able to set the bike up for wet settings...........

....... the other important bit is that all things being equal that it instantly gives Ducati an advantage with their single sided swingarm........

Single sided swingarms were invented purely to allow fast wheel changes in endurance races.

TJ1 - Unregistered

October 09, 2012 3:34 PM

lets hope there is not another wet race at Monza, imagine the chaos having to pit every 3 laps (thats how long the Pirelli wets lasted this year). would Tom Sykes have been champion if this rule had apllied this year i.e no half points races

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